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Ours is the era of inadequate AI alignment theory. Any other facts about this era are relatively unimportant, but sometimes I tweet about them anyway.

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    Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 12 Dec 2017

    Eliezer Yudkowsky Retweeted Geoffrey Irving

    I think people protesting the "Deep nets are alchemy" analogy must be reacting with "Alchemy! Superstition! Low prestige!", rather than considering the history of pre-chemistry and realizing that the daily labor was a lot like using Tensorflow.https://twitter.com/geoffreyirving/status/940619044784238592 …

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    Geoffrey Irving @geoffreyirving
    A lot of the pushback against @alirahimi19's "alchemy" argument assumes he's saying *everyone* should work on rigor. I get the same thing: Me: I work on safety. Someone: Are you saying my non-safety project is bad?! NIPS had 8000 attendees. Some of them should do rigor. https://twitter.com/AndreTI/status/940293920096788480 …
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      1. David Manheim‏ @davidmanheim 12 Dec 2017
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        The daily labor of alchemy was also necessary as a prerequisite to modern chemistry - we needed the foundational work using ad-hoc methods and exploration to be able to build a theory - a theory we don't have in ML. (So we pick hyperparameters via guesswork and heuristics.)

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      1. joshcryer‏ @joshcryer 12 Dec 2017
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        Tensorflow is more like the history psychosurgery.

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      1. Buddy Casino‏ @buddy_casino 12 Dec 2017
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        Buddy Casino Retweeted 70s Sci-Fi Art

        Basically this:https://twitter.com/70sscifiart/status/940673236391559168 …

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        Peter Elson, “The Alchemical Marriage of Alistair Cromption” http://70sscifiart.tumblr.com/post/168475155509/peter-elson-the-alchemical-marriage-of-alistair … pic.twitter.com/EXzxR0tIjx
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      1. M Nov‏ @artlesscommerce 12 Dec 2017
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        Can this analogy extend to AutoML?

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