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Ours is the era of inadequate AI alignment theory. Any other facts about this era are relatively unimportant, but sometimes I tweet about them anyway.

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    1. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 11 Dec 2017

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      I have a lot of detractors not smart enough to understand large numbers. I say X is better than (bignum >> googolplex) people suffering the tiniest noticeable pain, and the # gets rounded down to "billions" or "quintillions". https://twitter.com/just_an_initial/status/940110359133851648 …

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    2. Random832‏ @Random832 11 Dec 2017
      Replying to @ESYudkowsky

      Playing gotcha with word games is a distraction from your underlying assumption that utility functions must be linear.

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    3. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 11 Dec 2017
      Replying to @Random832

      It's not a little gotcha! Even on the most naive numbers, billions of people with dust specks in their eyes are quantitatively better than 50 years of torment. And you need doubly-exponential quantities, like a googolplex, to make the obvious argument from circular preferences.

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    4. Random832‏ @Random832 11 Dec 2017
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      I'm just saying that "shut up and multiply" is an unsupported claim that the utility impact of adding more dust specks is linear, and the conclusion itself depends on at least the assumption that it grows without bound.

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      Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 11 Dec 2017
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      So what is the exact amount of pain such that it's better that a googol people have that pain rather than one person have the tiniest physically possible increment more pain than that? Or do you also deny that preferences should be noncircular?

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        1. Gurkenglas‏ @Gurkenglasius 11 Dec 2017
          Replying to @ESYudkowsky @Random832

          You could have the disutility of the situation depend only on the number of people plus the number of quants of pain per person.

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