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    Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 23 Nov 2017

    Measured in average positive impact on the reader's thought processes, I suspect _Dune_ was the greatest rationalist novel before 2010. Though if we're allowed to count the impact of reading the entire _Discworld_ series, that probably tops it.

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      2. Tracy Harms‏ @kaleidic 24 Nov 2017
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        I postponed reading Dune for years. Its impact on me was so great I can't but wonder how I would have been different had I read it when younger.

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      3. corvus frugilegus‏ @glaebhoerl 24 Nov 2017
        Replying to @kaleidic @ESYudkowsky

        Can you elaborate on how/why? I read Dune when I was like, 12, and liked it a lot, but my recollection-impression of it is as more mystical than rationalist.

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      4. Tracy Harms‏ @kaleidic 24 Nov 2017
        Replying to @glaebhoerl @ESYudkowsky

        I'd call it transhumanist more easily than rationalist, but wrt rationality Dune is dominated by decisions in situations of great peril. Learning and deciding is key for most major characters.

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      2. Evan Cater‏ @Evan_ec 23 Nov 2017
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        What is the post 2010 great?

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      3. ((car('E101  🚀)))‏ @RiboFlavaFlav 23 Nov 2017
        Replying to @Evan_ec @ESYudkowsky

        Probably HPMOR or something

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      1. 3ॐc³‏ @S33light 23 Nov 2017
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        I hope that someday you will read some of my ideas and dislike them with a curious intensity :)https://multisenserealism.com/2017/10/25/this-is-not-a-pipe-but-it-is-a-triangle/ …

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      1. Matthew Skene‏ @SkenePhilosophy 24 Nov 2017
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        Discworld is awesome. I've got a paper in Discworld and Philosophy discussing how Sam Vimes embodies the epistemic values of common sense philosophy. Pratchett has the most accurate picture of human nature I've ever seen in literature.

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      1. Dr. Orin Davis‏ @DrOrinDavis 24 Nov 2017
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        I would argue that "Stranger in a Strange Land" might even edge out Dune (though the latter is a personal favorite).

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      1. binaryFate‏ @binaryFate01 24 Nov 2017
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        Loved Dune, you make me want to read Discworld!

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      1. Faun of Foggy Hollow‏ @makoConstruct 23 Nov 2017
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        I remember empathing Paul's experience of prescience, started experiencing my expected futures with almost as much immediacy as the present

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      2. Dave Crossland‏ @davelab6 23 Nov 2017
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        What is the post 2010 great?

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      3. Noah Topper‏ @NoahTopper 23 Nov 2017
        Replying to @davelab6 @ESYudkowsky

        HPMOR did start in 2010...

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      2. ThePrussian‏ @ThePrussian1 23 Nov 2017
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        Atlas Shrugged

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      3. 40% Evil Educator‏ @twneslscience 24 Nov 2017
        Replying to @ThePrussian1 @ESYudkowsky

        If Atlas Shrugged is rationalism, I choose communism. Openly political metaphors are very plus minus.

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      4. ThePrussian‏ @ThePrussian1 26 Nov 2017
        Replying to @twneslscience @ESYudkowsky

        If Atlas Shrugged is reason, I choose the most murderous ideology of the twentieth century. Okay.

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      5. 40% Evil Educator‏ @twneslscience 26 Nov 2017
        Replying to @ThePrussian1 @ESYudkowsky

        See? Net negative to the forces of reason. You cannot reason spite out of human nature. Indeed, spite is rational often enough that it would be irrational to try.

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      6. ThePrussian‏ @ThePrussian1 26 Nov 2017
        Replying to @twneslscience @ESYudkowsky

        ...yeah. I don't think you could reach rationality from where you are, even with a supersonic jet. These answers are so completely divorced from reason, context etc. as to qualify as insanity.

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      7. 40% Evil Educator‏ @twneslscience 26 Nov 2017
        Replying to @ThePrussian1 @ESYudkowsky

        Hmmm, and strangely I believe that listening to Ayn Rand uncritically is a form of insanity. Perhaps her attempt to improve the thought processes of her readers has failed from any possible point of view.

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      8. ThePrussian‏ @ThePrussian1 26 Nov 2017
        Replying to @twneslscience @ESYudkowsky

        Again, blind assertion presented without evidence. You're halucinating here.

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      9. 40% Evil Educator‏ @twneslscience 26 Nov 2017
        Replying to @ThePrussian1 @ESYudkowsky

        Very well, evidence is a fair request.pic.twitter.com/BHP3onLft5

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