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Ours is the era of inadequate AI alignment theory. Any other facts about this era are relatively unimportant, but sometimes I tweet about them anyway.

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    Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 22 Nov 2017

    Look, the alternative to signaling virtue is signaling not-virtue. You realize that's where Orcs come from, right? Melkor just threw some Elves into a pit and gave them social media software.

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      1. Cole Cruz‏ @ColeCrumb 22 Nov 2017
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        False dichotomy b/c you can *not* signal at all. Plus, you are taking the language too literally! The accusation is that the person’s objective is to look good vs to be good.

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      1. Jonas‏ @jpkcato 22 Nov 2017
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        Recently heard the phrase "praying in public" from @jordanbpeterson. I think it's relevant. Real difference between doing good and doing things that make you look good. Which is why we're saying "virtue-signaling" and not "being virtuous", right?

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      1. Texhnophille‏ @Texhnophille 22 Nov 2017
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        Should that social media be VK mobile where one can only listen 40 minutes of music per day, I can totally see them turning into Orcs.

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      1. entirelyuseless‏ @entirelyuseles 22 Nov 2017
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        Nonsense. The alternative to signaling virtue is being virtuous and shutting up. Not signaling not-virtue, but instead not signaling at all.

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      1. ThePrussian‏ @ThePrussian1 22 Nov 2017
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        ...you know who did tons of virtue signalling? The commies. They signalled it all day long. Maybe the problem is that virtue signalling is a way to avoid virtue practicing. You ever considered that?

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      1. Accelerationist Alex Jones‏ @ParadiseDelayed 22 Nov 2017
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        You don't have to signal either

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      1. micimize‏ @micimize 22 Nov 2017
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        The "virtue signaling" critique is usually in relation to willful blindness of the topic. "They're only saying AGI is 500 years away for social reasons, they didn't actually think about the topic analytically, they're virtue signaling"

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      1. Skipped Tick‏ @Skip_tick 22 Nov 2017
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        Surely you could, at least in theory, signal honestly, whether it relates to your ethical virtues or flaws.

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      1. Alguém‏ @randomuserbr 22 Nov 2017
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        When people say that someone is signalling virtue they probably mean they are expressing charity/love. Even small actions according to this virtue are greatly rewarded on our time and this makes it really easy to follow it, but it's not the only virtue out there to consider.

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      1. zmeysa‏ @zmeysa 22 Nov 2017
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        Signalling non-virtue might be preferable e.g. 'beware wolfs' or I understand signalling wrong way here

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