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Ours is the era of inadequate AI alignment theory. Any other facts about this era are relatively unimportant, but sometimes I tweet about them anyway.

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    1. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 22 Oct 2017

      Eliezer Yudkowsky Retweeted Geoffrey Miller

      #UnpopularOpinion: Unavoidable ignorance of a law, because your society has too many laws to learn, is a defense.https://twitter.com/primalpoly/status/922139323457200128 …

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      Geoffrey MillerVerified account @primalpoly
      Canada decides that ignorance of the law makes it OK to inflict multiple felony sexual assaults on a woman. https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-41699245 …
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    2. Jonatan Pallesen‏ @jonatanpallesen 22 Oct 2017
      Replying to @ESYudkowsky

      Ignorance of the law may be unavoidable in complex matters, not about "you should not rape".

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      Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 22 Oct 2017
      Replying to @jonatanpallesen

      You would not be able to reinvent every idea that important on your own. It is society’s job to have few enough laws to say that one aloud.

      10:15 AM - 22 Oct 2017
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        2. Jonatan Pallesen‏ @jonatanpallesen 22 Oct 2017
          Replying to @ESYudkowsky

          No matter how few laws a country has, there will always be a large number of different ways to hurt other people. Kick, burn, rape, etc etc.

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        3. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 22 Oct 2017
          Replying to @jonatanpallesen

          Humans do have some ability to generalize. The 20 top failures of generalization like “But she’s my wife” could all be listed on one slide.

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        4. Jonatan Pallesen‏ @jonatanpallesen 22 Oct 2017
          Replying to @ESYudkowsky

          ... Yes, exactly. So too many laws is not an important problem for this type of crime. (It may be for other types.)

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        5. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 22 Oct 2017
          Replying to @jonatanpallesen

          What I’m saying is that all the laws governing them should have been read aloud to them over a couple of days. Too many laws and you can’t.

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        6. Jonatan Pallesen‏ @jonatanpallesen 22 Oct 2017
          Replying to @ESYudkowsky

          But you could read "don't hurt people" and 20 top failures of generalization. Done. (For that type of crime.)

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        7. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 22 Oct 2017
          Replying to @jonatanpallesen

          And if that had *actually been done* I’d be, “Sure, lock him up and throw away the key.” But *in fact* our Bronze Age Guy was told “Guess!”

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        8. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 22 Oct 2017
          Replying to @ESYudkowsky @jonatanpallesen

          Let me be very clear here. This law would not have been hard to teach. It was not taught. Hoping for innate goodness is not an alternative.

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        9. Jonatan Pallesen‏ @jonatanpallesen 22 Oct 2017
          Replying to @ESYudkowsky

          I take that point. He still has to be punished though. What if he thought it was okay to murder specific people? No one would accept that.

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