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Ours is the era of inadequate AI alignment theory. Any other facts about this era are relatively unimportant, but sometimes I tweet about them anyway.

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    Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 17 Sep 2017

    Every experimenter should ask: What would I do differently if I lived in China, and China executed scientists whose work doesn't replicate.

    11:32 AM - 17 Sep 2017
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      2. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 17 Sep 2017

        Okay, kinda horrified by the "Nobody can possibly do studies that replicate reliably!" replies. Bigger samples, more diverse subjects... 1/2

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      3. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 17 Sep 2017

        ...bigger effect sizes, simpler stats, check that others can carry out your methods, notice weirdness instead of chasing p-values. 2/2

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      2. Eduardo Valle‏ @DrEAVJr 17 Sep 2017
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        ...but also does not help as we fight the rise of obscurantism and superstition. Stop making excuses and check your damn results! (2/2)

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      3. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 17 Sep 2017
        Replying to @DrEAVJr

        They can't afford to, if everyone else isn't doing it too. No grant money for large sample sizes. Can't fall behind on CV and impact factor.

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      2. Paolo G. Giarrusso‏ @Blaisorblade 17 Sep 2017
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        I think you mean "try harder", but realistically one should then get out of science, unless you changed the "publish or perish" system.

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      3. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 17 Sep 2017
        Replying to @Blaisorblade

        Publish or perish would change automatically, it's an equilibrium of too many people, too little funding, and too little at stake in quality

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      4. konrad‏ @Konradny 18 Sep 2017
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky @Blaisorblade

        More rules are necessaryhttp://www.dcscience.net/2014/12/01/publish-and-perish-at-imperial-college-london-the-death-of-stefan-grimm/ …

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      1. Robin Hanson‏Verified account @robinhanson 17 Sep 2017
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        Most likely just study safer topics less likely to surprise anyone, to the world's loss.

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      2. David Manheim‏ @davidmanheim 17 Sep 2017
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        I'm not sure how "Try to escape from China" helps inform my experimental procedures.

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      3. Skipped Tick‏ @Skip_tick 17 Sep 2017
        Replying to @davidmanheim @ESYudkowsky

        Maybe ppl replicating your work pretend it is good because they need you to do the same back to them at a later stage?

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      1. Sgeo Comet‏ @sgeocomet 17 Sep 2017
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        Change careers.

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      1. Tamzin Blake ⚧‏ @tamzinblake 18 Sep 2017
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        Publish fake replications of other scientists' work to save their lives

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      1. ows‏ @osteele 17 Sep 2017
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        Tell wingsuit flyers about this exciting new opportunity. Don't know they'd make good scientists, but that's who you'd get.

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      1. Arthur B.  🚀‏ @ArthurB 18 Sep 2017
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        Draw no conclusion, present the raw data. I'd be OK with that.

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      1. Jon  🏹 👱🏻 Bauman‏ @AnoYaro 17 Sep 2017
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        Does China do this? And if not, why is China a necessary part of this hypothetical?

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      1. Matt Gershoff‏ @mgershoff 17 Sep 2017
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        I guess stop doing any work that is based on inductive logic then, which includes all empirical science.

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      1. mavant‏ @mavant 17 Sep 2017
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        Leave science, get into civil engineering.

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      1. Lumifer‏ @lumiferrous 18 Sep 2017
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        There's an obvious answer: start by getting the fuck out of China

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      1. Praxeologue‏ @praxeologue 17 Sep 2017
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        Drift over time to simpler tests meaning less variables to control for, e.g. Physics vs social science

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