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Ours is the era of inadequate AI alignment theory. Any other facts about this era are relatively unimportant, but sometimes I tweet about them anyway.

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    Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 22 Feb 2017

    The "robot tax" is a mad concept, but it does point up that human labor shouldn't be taxed either! Consumption taxes vastly more fair.

    7:07 AM - 22 Feb 2017
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      2. Jóhannes G. Halldórsson‏ @johannesgh90 23 Feb 2017
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        For perishable and scarce things, would you consider property taxes a subset of consumption taxes? Specifically: Land tax good?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 23 Feb 2017
        Replying to @johannesgh90

        Land tax is best tax, of course.

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      4. Danno the manno‏ @Danno28_ 25 Feb 2017
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky @johannesgh90

        do you favour Land Tax ($ per acre) or Land Value Tax (% of land value)?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 25 Feb 2017
        Replying to @Danno28_ @johannesgh90

        LVT. I hadn't realized $/acre was even a thing.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Sam Dumitriu‏ @Sam_Dumitriu 22 Feb 2017
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        If you start from scratch there's no difference between a human labor tax and a consumption tax

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 22 Feb 2017
        Replying to @Sam_Dumitriu

        When a human makes a product, the government skims $10,000. Robot makes the product, govt skims $0. (Both should be $0.)

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      4. Sam Dumitriu‏ @Sam_Dumitriu 22 Feb 2017
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        Income = Consumption - Saving. Income - Saving (Capital) = Labor. Consumption = Labor.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Sam Dumitriu‏ @Sam_Dumitriu 22 Feb 2017
        Replying to @Sam_Dumitriu @ESYudkowsky

        Doesn't apply fully if you switched now, because consumption would also fall on old wealth.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 22 Feb 2017
        Replying to @Sam_Dumitriu

        If you don't think the current system is unfair, can I please be redefined as a robot so I don't need to pay taxes?

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      7. Sam Dumitriu‏ @Sam_Dumitriu 22 Feb 2017
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        I support moving to a consumption tax system (for efficiency not 'fairness').

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. Sam Dumitriu‏ @Sam_Dumitriu 22 Feb 2017
        Replying to @Sam_Dumitriu @ESYudkowsky

        Consumption taxes are preferable precisely because they don't tax robots.

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      9. Sam Dumitriu‏ @Sam_Dumitriu 22 Feb 2017
        Replying to @Sam_Dumitriu @ESYudkowsky

        A robot tax is just a tax on future consumption. See:https://www.adamsmith.org/blog/capitaltaxesarebad …

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      2. Hyp 🌧lite Pe ☂ov 🍃n (he/him)‏ @MrPetovan 22 Feb 2017
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        Do you include financial investment in consumption? Otherwise it is a tax mainly on the poorest.

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      3. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 22 Feb 2017
        Replying to @MrPetovan

        Econ 101, who "pays" a tax is not who really pays. To reduce inequality, tax yacht consumption more than food consumption.

        2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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      2. Mani‏ @manicakes 22 Feb 2017
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        though consumption tax would approach ~$0 as “perfect automation” would give us ~$0 goods and services.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 22 Feb 2017
        Replying to @manicakes

        Consumption tax of 20% means govt can deploy 20% of economic power, regardless of nominal prices.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      4. Mani‏ @manicakes 22 Feb 2017
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        IMHO: automation is bringing with it runaway deflation, potential collapse of economies 😱 but expansion of quality of life 😎.

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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      2. Cursed With Knowledge‏ @AmbientLion 22 Feb 2017
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        @jerrykuch consumption taxes are extremely regressive. Poor people spend close to 100% of income; wealthy people much much less

        1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
      3. Evan Wright‏ @evanpw 22 Feb 2017
        Replying to @AmbientLion @ESYudkowsky @jerrykuch

        Tax should be progressive wrt consumption. Income is irrelevant.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Cursed With Knowledge‏ @AmbientLion 22 Feb 2017
        Replying to @evanpw @ESYudkowsky @jerrykuch

        I fully support an exponentially increasing tax rate for ever dollar spent above poverty line; nice idea.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Cursed With Knowledge‏ @AmbientLion 22 Feb 2017
        Replying to @AmbientLion @evanpw and

        "your first $22k is tax free, but by the time you're buying your second yacht you're basically bankrupt."

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