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Ours is the era of inadequate AI alignment theory. Any other facts about this era are relatively unimportant, but sometimes I tweet about them anyway.

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    Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 10 Jul 2016

    How the heck does @bryan_caplan simultaneously believe in free will *and* p-zombies (= consciousness has zero causal impact)?

    10:37 PM - 10 Jul 2016
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    • Ivan Mazur Marble Nate Herrell MugaSofer August Wester ❌Deplorabot Dregs ❤️🇺🇸 DK🐍hadow( ) Easton Smith Bryan Caplan
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      2. Nicholas Gilyak‏ @preinfarction 10 Jul 2016
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky @bryan_caplan

        Will is phenomenal, free will is epiphenomenal.

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      3. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 10 Jul 2016
        Replying to @preinfarction @bryan_caplan

        WHAT. So free will is totally impotent to change anything HOW DOES THAT INFLUENCE THE FAIRNESS OF WELFARE

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      4. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 10 Jul 2016
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky @preinfarction @bryan_caplan

        Of course free will has an impact! It's how you can move your hand of your own free will!

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      5. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 10 Jul 2016
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky @preinfarction @bryan_caplan

        Of course consciousness has an impact! It's how you can *talk* about your awareness of your inner awareness!

        1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
      6. Bryan Caplan‏ @bryan_caplan 11 Jul 2016
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        .@ESYudkowsky @preinfarction I'm sure my consciousness has impact. Others' must be fallibly inferred.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      7. jacob  🎛️‏ @SparseJacobian 11 Jul 2016
        Replying to @bryan_caplan @ESYudkowsky

        Doesn't "others" also include the philosophers of consciousness who came up with that argument? :D

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      8. Bryan Caplan‏ @bryan_caplan 11 Jul 2016
        Replying to @SparseJacobian @ESYudkowsky

        Obviously! Talking about philosophy doesn't solve the Other Minds problem, alas.

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      2. Zombie Ayn Rand‏ @zombieaynrand 11 Jul 2016
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        did somebody mention zombies?

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      3. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 11 Jul 2016
        Replying to @zombieaynrand

        Okay my life is officially running on the It Got Worse trope.

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      2. Bryan Caplan‏ @bryan_caplan 11 Jul 2016
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        .@ESYudkowsky "No causal impact"'is add-on I don't accept. Essence of p-zom is just appearance of consciousness w/o actual consciousness.

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      3. Matthew Skene‏ @SkenePhilosophy 11 Jul 2016
        Replying to @bryan_caplan @ESYudkowsky

        Either physical laws aren't the same in p-zom world or no causal relevance. Cut out the cause, need a substitute.

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      1. Andrew Clough‏ @aclough 11 Jul 2016
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        The person who explained p-zombies did it badly, I don't think he believes in the standard p-zombie.

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      1. Olle Häggström‏ @OHaggstrom 10 Jul 2016
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        And how the heck can we tell whether those are real beliefs of his, as opposed to merely z-beliefs? @bryan_caplan

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      1. François-René Rideau‏ @fare 11 Jul 2016
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        The solution to all your free will problems: http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=161  @ESYudkowsky @bryan_caplan

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      1. Hunter Ash (name is already kinda spooky)‏ @HunterRobertAsh 11 Jul 2016
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky @bryan_caplan

        for $500, this is the most useless and insane opinion on consciousness ever expressed by humans.

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      1. Srijit Sanyal‏ @_Srijit 10 Jul 2016
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky @bryan_caplan

        redundancy, I suspect. There's a p-zombie version of him without free will.

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      1. Chroma‏ @_Chroma_ 10 Jul 2016
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        Compartmentalization. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (Also, don't most people believe both of those?)

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