Will is phenomenal, free will is epiphenomenal.
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WHAT. So free will is totally impotent to change anything HOW DOES THAT INFLUENCE THE FAIRNESS OF WELFARE
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Of course free will has an impact! It's how you can move your hand of your own free will!
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Of course consciousness has an impact! It's how you can *talk* about your awareness of your inner awareness!
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@ESYudkowsky@preinfarction I'm sure my consciousness has impact. Others' must be fallibly inferred. -
Doesn't "others" also include the philosophers of consciousness who came up with that argument? :D
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Obviously! Talking about philosophy doesn't solve the Other Minds problem, alas.
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did somebody mention zombies?
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Okay my life is officially running on the It Got Worse trope.
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@ESYudkowsky "No causal impact"'is add-on I don't accept. Essence of p-zom is just appearance of consciousness w/o actual consciousness. -
Either physical laws aren't the same in p-zom world or no causal relevance. Cut out the cause, need a substitute.
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The person who explained p-zombies did it badly, I don't think he believes in the standard p-zombie.
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And how the heck can we tell whether those are real beliefs of his, as opposed to merely z-beliefs?
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The solution to all your free will problems: http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=161
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for $500, this is the most useless and insane opinion on consciousness ever expressed by humans.
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redundancy, I suspect. There's a p-zombie version of him without free will.
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Compartmentalization. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (Also, don't most people believe both of those?)
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