On being told Dowless didn't keep any documentation/receipts to verify his expenses, John Harris said he told his dad "He better start doing that or you should fire him."
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After learning the emails would be produced as evidence, John Harris said he reached out to the Board of Elections and told them he could talk and wouldn't put up a legal fight about their release.
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John Harris gave his emails to the board in late January. He says he learned later that his father's campaign had not produced the emails even though his father's attorney said they would "They were not produced as of that date..I certainly thought they had been produced."
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On Dec. 3, John Harris sent his parents an email and said that since he's a DOJ party, it would be best if they didn't talk until this whole
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Mark Harris appears to be fighting back emotions as his son describes largely cutting off contact. They ran into each other at a holiday party, and then John Harris sat with his dad when he was hospitalized in January. Prior to all this, they talked frequently.
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Once the investigation started Nov. 27, John Harris said he told his dad not to tell him what lawyers were telling him, so he didn't destroy legal privilege. By that weekend, he told his dad, "We don't need to text or talk about this any more." Cut off contact Dec. 3.
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"There was no conversation like 'We got caught' or anything like that," said John Harris. He says his parents didn't think the investigation was about McCrae Dowless collecting ballots, and thought it was a "political hitjob."
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"Mr. Yates said he was shocked and disturbed by the testimony. I was more just disturbed. Less shocked," John Harris says of testimony about ballot collection.
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Hearing will end at 5:30 p.m. so Mark Harris can receive medical treatment related to his recent hospitalization. Will start again at 9 a.m. Thursday.
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Cross-examination now. "Your father has been in the ministry your entire life, right?"
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"I believe he wanted to run for Congress because he really felt like that would be a place he could be of service," said John Harris. "I think the folks of the 9th District have selected him to go to Congress."
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"You had concerns about McCrae Dowless from the start?" "Yes...Their mind was made up, and I didn't really pursue any additional persuasive attempts," John Harris says of hiring McCrae Dowless.
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John Harris says he doesn't believe his dad would have knowingly hired someone to commit crimes. Cross-exam over.
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"I would have expected more control and oversight than what I have heard testified to today by Mr. Yates," John Harris said of his father's campaign and McCrae Dowless.
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"I love my dad and I love my mom, OK? I certainly have no vendetta against them, no family scores to settle. I think that they made mistakes in this process," says John Harris.
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"I will be frank, Mr. Chairman. Watching all of this process unfold, we have got to come up with a way to transcend our partisan politics and the exploitation of processes like this for political gain. And that goes for both parties...We can all do a lot better than this."
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John Harris wrapped up. He has left the stand.
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Mark Harris has to drive back to Charlotte for IV antibiotics. He'll be back tomorrow.
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"Their relationship is good. The love each other," Mark Harris lawyer says. He did not know his son would testify today.
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"He's a very trusting person,"
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"I think he's much too trusting," his attorney adds.
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Asked whether
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"Now we know he was warned by his son, in quite stark terms, over phone and email,"
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"We know that what Dr. Harris has been telling us, which is that no one warned him, is patently untrue,"
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