The divergence is even sharper in these countries. Below you see Denmark and Sweden. The short-run earnings penalty is about twice as large in Sweden as it is in Denmark. (2/6)pic.twitter.com/h3GsIMvmp2
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Did you see this graph by Kleven et al. (2018) showing that earnings of men and women in Denmark diverge sharply right after the arrival of the first child? Kleven et al. (2019) now studied the same for Sweden, Germany, Austria, the UK, and the US. And guess what? (1/6)pic.twitter.com/m0KYogYT3P
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The UK and US feature less dramatic short-run earning penalties, but larger long-run penalties: 44% in the UK and 31% in the US. (3/6)pic.twitter.com/vW2Xv8UWya
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By far the highest earnings penalties are found for Germany and Austria: up to 80% in the short run and 60% in the long run. (4/6)pic.twitter.com/aNPEvkqJVB
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Turns out there is a striking correlation between these long-run earnings penalties and gender norms, measured here as the fraction of people who think that women with children under school age should stay at home. (5/6)pic.twitter.com/BudRLUMqne
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Links to the papers: Kleven et al. (2018): http://econ.lse.ac.uk/staff/clandais/cgi-bin/Articles/GenderGap_AEJ-Applied_Final.pdf … forthcoming in AEJ-Applied Kleven et al. (2019): https://www.henrikkleven.com/uploads/3/7/3/1/37310663/klevenetal_aea-pp_2019.pdf … prepared for the AEA Papers & Proceedings (6/6)pic.twitter.com/gVu9Fj3v4m
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The only viable solution is to get more men pregnant. Then we will truly have gender equality.
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I know you are trolling but please try to make an effort. That was a very poor take given how the data and science presented in what you are replying to shows how we can fix this issue with greater emphasis on childcare etc. You make me ashamed and sad for trolls everywhere.
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It's called sarcasm.
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Completely different topic, but: Why does income *before* the 1st child decrease in english-speaking countries (not much, but noticeable)?
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Women loosing jobs while pregnant? We like to think it doesn't happen any more but I know two women in *academia* it's happened to in the UK
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According to the graphs this affects men as well (and for the period of 3 yrs), and only in UK/US, not in AT/DE/DK/SE. IMO can't have a connection to the child, there must be other (age-dependent?) effects.
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Ah. Job changes in preparation for having a family? Moving out of cities? Taking care of aging parents (altho that tends to be women too)?
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Possible - but why not in the other countries, too? (This is likely not a question of big relevance, it just puzzled me)
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Not sure, but it’s a very common things for people to move out of London ahead of having children (maybe targeting school catchment areas). Whereas you’d stay where you live in Paris.
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Could also be discrimination against women of childbearing age. If you have 2 equally-qualified 28-yr-old workers, 1 male, 1 female, both child-free, but you can only promote 1 to management, who do you choose? She is more likely to take longer maternity leave.
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Meant country-differences, not gender-differences, look at the detail: yrs 5-2 before birth continental ppl have raising wages, anglican ppl have falling wages. Must have some explanation (housing prices in London are worth consideration).pic.twitter.com/9UhwjokCBM
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It would be interesting to see how that looks when you add in the benefits they receive after the baby is born as well.
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If they would add benefits, there would probably be a short run effect closing the gap a bit. But there is a long run human capital loss that also contributes to the gap not closing. The extent depends on the country but benefits do not make up for the human capital loss.
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So the children are responsible for capital loss?
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You're mixing causation and responsability there.
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Kids cost money, a lot, and the older they get, the more they cost.
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