Imperial formations. America’s empire was the theft of the North American landmass from its indigenous people. UK, the world.
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Wouldn't that imply that the average Londoner regularly travels to former colonies? I'm not sure that's at all true.
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I agree the home comparison is flawed. But my point isn’t that they travel to the colonies but the the experience of empire normalizes the external orientation of Londoners.
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I don't know. Given that the US has been a significantly more active imperial force for the last 60 years than the UK, I'd think that experience were more alive stateside.... And the "well-travelled" thing applies to pretty much all Europeans, not just those from former empires.
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Most of them did have empires / colonies though. It is a matter of geographic proximity to other nations as well. US culture maintains an isolationist monolingual tradition even in the face of its increased global military imperial interventions. This encourages staying in.
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Slightly different example that I think makes the same point: look at all the Brexiteers who own property in other parts of Europe and just assumed they wouldn’t be affected. There’s definitely still a mindset of “the world belongs to us” in England.
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That's not an Imperial attitude, though, that's just typical English EU think. Having holiday homes elsewhere in Europe is not uncommon for well-to-do people on the continent either.
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How can you separate that from imperial attitude given the breadth and longevity of the British Empire? Maybe they didn't colonize Europe, that doesn't mean they didn't think they should have. Just look at C18 and 19 travelogues by English. See also, the Grand Tour.
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The Grand Tour wasn't an exclusively English phenomenon, though. Wealthy Germans went on grand tours long before Germany had any colonies -- long before "Germany" even existed, in fact.
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But the OP wasn't about Germany, nor were any of my responses. The point I am making is that imperial formations and desires influence how cultures orient themselves toward the rest of the world. That's it.
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I wasn't talking about Germany either, except to note that something that may look particularly British wasn't that. I guess I don't really buy that the logic of Empire produces a culture of travel that lasts generations beyond the end of that Empire.
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Maybe talk to people who were colonized to find out the kind of culture of travel that empire produces after generations of the end of empire. Imperial time works also works differently.
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