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A thread on my experience: 1. 90% of students in my economics masters classes are international. 2. Half of them struggle with basic English 3. When I ask in tutorials why they are doing the degree, half tell me that they "need more points for their residency visa" (1/n)https://twitter.com/DrCameronMurray/status/1066450753152118784 …
4. They tell me they choose economics because they can do the maths but don't need to understand anything or write anything. 5. I always set written essays or reports. Students tell me that they know other students are using paid 'essay writing' services to pass my class (2/n)
6. If half the class can't understand English it brings down standards. It must—unless I fail half the class. 7. Think about the incentives—a casual lecturer who costs $25,000 fails 50 students paying $250,000. Change lecturer next year or reduce intake to keep standards? (3/n)
8. It is frustrating when top international students from foreign governments/central banks come to your class, then sit next to rich Chinese (almost always Chinese) who can't understand a word and are there to buy a visa (4/n)
9. The evidence shows the effect on standards is real. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S027277571200028310 …. 10. None of this is a secret. That research is from 2011. Here's an article from 2014 https://www.smh.com.au/education/academics-accuse-universities-of-addiction-to-international-students-and-their-cheating-20141112-11lbdi.html … (5/n)
10. Unfortunately, this reality conflicts with the widely believed myth that our immigration program brings in "high skilled" workers. 11. 350,000 international students paying $25,000+ per year to study is $9billion being pumped through our top dozen universities. (6/n)
12. Halving the number of international students would keep all the good students, boost standards for all, and remove the visa scams. 13. But this would remove $4.5billion per year of revenue to the universities. (7/n)
14. In sum, universities are being degraded so they can be used as a back-door immigration program, and no one at the senior levels of universities or major political parties want to change it. 15. It is nearly career suicide for younger academics to say anything about it (8/8)
I forgot to add that almost every student I failed or called out for plagiarism got second and third chances until they passed. After the first chance it is taken out of my hands to higher ups at the faculty.
Where do you teach?
Do your colleagues agree with your observations in this thread?
Many do. There is nothing new in this thread. @4corners did a big investigation a few years ago. Nothing changed AFAIK. People are just used to the new reality.
https://economics.com.au/2015/04/17/universities-corruption-and-standards-its-not-just-academic-anymore/ …
https://www.afr.com/news/policy/education/universities-accused-of-dodgy-practices-for-international-enrolments-20150420-1mp1g0 …https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/university-of-queensland-hits-back-at-four-corners-university-corruption-investigation-20150421-1mpq42.html …
Cam from memory the 2018 Treasury Report found only 16% of international students get PR. How do you reconcile that? (not doubting the accuracy of your observations)
That might be true (link?). They are probably concentrated in postgrad econ/commerce courses that I was teaching, as this report suggests http://tapri.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/final-report-overseas-student-industryV2.pdf … This report reckons that in 2008 ~half the skilled migrants were former inter students http://tapri.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/v17n2_6birrell.pdf …pic.twitter.com/XEwPvUcuxI
That's correct, but migration was unteathered from education in 2009-10 leading to the #intled industry collapse over 2010-2012.
There have been several migration policy changes over the past decade.
Many of those students were through the private VET sector, as well, doing courses that were in the skilled shortages list. The leading example was Sihks doing hairdressing courses, despite their beliefs on cutting hair.
Ha! Yes, the skills shortage lists are a joke. But that will have to be a thread for another time!
We also have people that are born here that do the same thing people who go to adult campuses do nothing all year because they are only there to get money from centerlink
Yes. This happens in undergrad courses. I guess if your policy ambition is for 60%+ of the population to go to university, you have to lower academic standards somewhat (or offer different courses where standards are not so tough).
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