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New York Times columnist, National Review film critic, author of Bad Religion: How We Became a Nation of Heretics (Free Press, 2012).

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    Ross Douthat‏Verified account @DouthatNYT 17 Nov 2016

    I would describe this from @slatestarcodex as important but wrong:http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/11/16/you-are-still-crying-wolf/ …

    8:14 AM - 17 Nov 2016
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      2. Ross Douthat‏Verified account @DouthatNYT 17 Nov 2016
        Replying to @DouthatNYT

        Important, in that it punctures a lot of lazy arguments about Trump-as-white-supremacist, Trump as "KKK candidate," etc.

        9 replies 20 retweets 76 likes
      3. Ross Douthat‏Verified account @DouthatNYT 17 Nov 2016
        Replying to @DouthatNYT

        But wrong in that it underestimates ways in which Trump's racialized appeals were different, and consciously so, from typical R rhetoric.

        11 replies 31 retweets 146 likes
      4. Ross Douthat‏Verified account @DouthatNYT 17 Nov 2016
        Replying to @DouthatNYT

        It doesn't take up, for instance, the ways that Trump used overt birtherism to gain attention prior to his presidential campaign.

        12 replies 24 retweets 140 likes
      5. Ross Douthat‏Verified account @DouthatNYT 17 Nov 2016
        Replying to @DouthatNYT

        Is birtherism identical to white supremacy? No. But it is a xenophobic conspiracy theory about the first black president.

        18 replies 38 retweets 153 likes
      6. Ross Douthat‏Verified account @DouthatNYT 17 Nov 2016
        Replying to @DouthatNYT

        Which Trump didn't just wink at or tolerate, but deliberately championed. For a long time. That's an important data point, I would say.

        5 replies 21 retweets 146 likes
      7. Ross Douthat‏Verified account @DouthatNYT 17 Nov 2016
        Replying to @DouthatNYT

        And one that throws a darker light on other forays that could otherwise be explained as "Trump doesn't talk a politician"/"Trump is weird."

        4 replies 13 retweets 52 likes
      8. Ross Douthat‏Verified account @DouthatNYT 17 Nov 2016
        Replying to @DouthatNYT

        I don't think his racial appeals explain Trump's victory in the way that a lot of ppl on the left do. Or even his primary victory.

        5 replies 12 retweets 45 likes
      9. Ross Douthat‏Verified account @DouthatNYT 17 Nov 2016
        Replying to @DouthatNYT

        But from birtherism through his "snake" lines about immigrants through the Curiel affair to the way he talked about voter fraud ...

        5 replies 30 retweets 102 likes
      10. Ross Douthat‏Verified account @DouthatNYT 17 Nov 2016
        Replying to @DouthatNYT

        ... he made an appeal to white tribal identity and anxiety a part of his campaign in a way that no modern GOP POTUS candidate has done.

        24 replies 39 retweets 155 likes
      11. Ross Douthat‏Verified account @DouthatNYT 17 Nov 2016
        Replying to @DouthatNYT

        He's not the KKK candidate, and the world is complicated, which is why he won more minority votes than ppl expected.

        21 replies 26 retweets 102 likes
      12. Ross Douthat‏Verified account @DouthatNYT 17 Nov 2016
        Replying to @DouthatNYT

        But he approached racial issues in a way that was distinctive, and dark, and should be recognized as such. /finis

        45 replies 34 retweets 203 likes
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    1. DC‏ @dcposch 18 Nov 2016
      Replying to @DouthatNYT @slatestarcodex

      you are the most hilarious person to be saying other writers are wrong 😂😉

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    2. Jo Lindsay Walton‏ @jolwalton 18 Nov 2016
      Replying to @DouthatNYT

      I mean, it's true that language gets hollowed out, loses its bite & force. But the answer is to refresh it, not try to hoard it.

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    3. Jo Lindsay Walton‏ @jolwalton 18 Nov 2016
      Replying to @DouthatNYT

      There's almost a sense of "you think THIS is bad? just you wait!" Why should we "save up" language for some inevitable atrocity?

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    4. Jo Lindsay Walton‏ @jolwalton 18 Nov 2016
      Replying to @DouthatNYT

      & something bugs me about the "crying wolf" framing. I guess it's that it participates in the logic of normalization.

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    5. Jo Lindsay Walton‏ @jolwalton 18 Nov 2016
      Replying to @DouthatNYT

      ... also convinced by your summary of shortcomings, especially entanglement of anti-immigration & white supremacy.

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    6. Jo Lindsay Walton‏ @jolwalton 18 Nov 2016
      Replying to @DouthatNYT

      Feel like @slatestarcodex's piece is v. useful as an account of why the labels "racist" / "W.S." didn't stick properly, but ...

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    7. Athul K. Acharya‏ @AthulAcharya 17 Nov 2016
      Replying to @DouthatNYT @slatestarcodex

      That it omits any mention of Bannon or Breitbart disqualifies it in my view. Shame; I often like SSC.

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    8. Harry Ichabod III‏ @HichabodIII 17 Nov 2016
      Replying to @DouthatNYT @slatestarcodex

      I like SA but this is ridiculous particularly when you get past point 5http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/11/16/you-are-still-crying-wolf/ …

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      2. Jason Bray‏ @jbraycq 17 Nov 2016
        Replying to @DouthatNYT @slatestarcodex

        anyone who reads this article and doesn't immediately drop all racist slander is irretrievably brainwashed

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      3. Jonathan E Lancaster‏ @mostlyjonathan 17 Nov 2016
        Replying to @jbraycq @DouthatNYT @slatestarcodex

        great read, thanks for linking that. Now I have to read rest of site.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Jason Bray‏ @jbraycq 17 Nov 2016
        Replying to @mostlyjonathan @DouthatNYT @slatestarcodex

        yeah I haven't had a chance to look at anything else there yet

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      5. Jonathan E Lancaster‏ @mostlyjonathan 17 Nov 2016
        Replying to @jbraycq @DouthatNYT @slatestarcodex

        good stuff!

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