@DouthatNYT @ccpecknold the section on cohabitation is likewise jaw-dropping.
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@DouthatNYT@sitsio ...marriage are abysmal -
@oldbrit2011 Brian please read@DouthatNYT 's timeline for his excellent appraisal. We have a pope who does not seem to understand canon law - View other replies
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@sitsio@DouthatNYT The conditions for a valid marriage are to understand what makes a marriage valid in the first place. Most people,... -
@sitsio@DouthatNYT including far to many Catholics, haven't a clue as to what makes a valid marriage. Haven't need a pope to tell me this -
@oldbrit2011 So what makes a marriage valid in the first place Brian?@DouthatNYT -
@sitsio@DouthatNYT Whatever the Catholic Church teaches, Mark. http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p2s2c3a7.htm … See the summary paras,1659 to 1660 -
@oldbrit2011 It's much simpler than that: valid consent, an intention of permanence & fidelity, & an openness to children.@DouthatNYT -
@sitsio@DouthatNYT OK, that's what paras 1659 - 1660 say. I have read what the Pope has said in a Catholic source. What he said rang true
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@DouthatNYT This is usually where Catholic Twitter steps in and claims that the Pope was misquoted/misunderstood/ taken out of context - View other replies
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@allahpundit @DouthatNYTbecause naturally the Pope should be able to deliver complete homilies in 140 characters or less@MZHemingway -
@EricLeutheuser@allahpundit@MZHemingway Perhaps homilies or otherwise complex ideas shouldn't be expressed through the medium of Twitter?
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@DouthatNYT seems to follow directly from, inter alia, Chesterton's, “The obvious effect of frivolous divorce will be frivolous marriage.” -
@DouthatNYT Isn't he just critiquing a society that doesn't teach permanence? That sounds like a very traditional Catholic complaint. -
@DouthatNYT@Michelle_Bauman Consent makes marriage valid. No one ever understands all the ramifications. -
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@DouthatNYT@Michelle_Bauman But given the criteria used in annulment cases, isn't@pontifex correct... at least given those criteria? -
@Bob_Hutchinson@DouthatNYT@Michelle_Bauman@Pontifex Easy annulments CREATE invalid intent, as lax bankruptcy laws goad fraudulent intent.
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@DouthatNYT it may be irresponsible but he made a point using a hyperbole that Our Lord himself would engage in at times to make a point - Show more
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