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NYTimes columnist, National Review film critic, author of The Decadent Society (2020) and The Deep Places (2021), jottings at https://douthat.substack.com 

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    1. Ross Douthat‏Verified account @DouthatNYT 29 Jun 2019

      I'm off this weekend but this earlier column can serve as my contribution to the great Twitter debate over whether alienating @BretStephensNYT and @nytdavidbrooks is bad news for the Democrats:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/25/opinion/sunday/how-liberalism-loses.html …

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    2. Ross Douthat‏Verified account @DouthatNYT 29 Jun 2019

      tl;dr liberals can certainly regain power without appealing the particular worldviews espoused by my colleagues, but they need to appeal to/compromise with *someone* they aren't winning right now and the hardening of liberal ideology makes that difficult.

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    3. Ross Douthat‏Verified account @DouthatNYT 29 Jun 2019

      Adding to the problem is the mistaken view that Hillary Clinton really, really tried to win over the kind of right-of-center voter that my colleagues arguably stand in for, when in fact she offered far less ideological outreach than Obama in '08 (let alone her husband).

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    4. Ross Douthat‏Verified account @DouthatNYT 29 Jun 2019

      This failure was understandable in a way given that her brand and record made the rising left so suspicious of her, which make it hard to do outreach to the center-right lest she drive more Bernie voters Steinward.

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    5. Ross Douthat‏Verified account @DouthatNYT 29 Jun 2019

      But the idea that she ran a centrist campaign is false. She ran a "vote for me because Trump is terrible" campaign, with the most left-wing Democratic platform in decades. Which was still enough to win over some right-leaning suburbanites.

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      Ross Douthat‏Verified account @DouthatNYT 29 Jun 2019

      And if you take the view that those suburbanites stand in for NeverTrump pundits or vice versa, and that winning them was insufficient and a different strategy is necessary, that's fine ... but then you need to do outreach to Joe Manchin's voters instead.

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        2. Ross Douthat‏Verified account @DouthatNYT 29 Jun 2019

          The truth is that Dems did both kinds of outreach pretty successfully in House races in 2018, which is why so much of the caucus now consists of the moderates who voted for the border deal and not AOC types.

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        3. Ross Douthat‏Verified account @DouthatNYT 29 Jun 2019

          But almost all the presidential contenders are running leftward of the House moderates on both social and economic issues. That poses a challenge for the party's chances to reclaim the White House and the Senate. About that much, my colleagues are (obviously!) correct. /finis

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        1. Stephen Burridge‏ @sburridgeottawa 29 Jun 2019
          Replying to @DouthatNYT

          ugh

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        1. Christopher Burke‏ @chrisburkeesq 29 Jun 2019
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          You ignore that HC had a history that made her untenable to a large portion of (R) Regardless of outreach. Voting for a dumpster fire of a person because HC didn’t reach out is just plain letting the (R) voters off the hook. They could have stayed home but they swarmed the polls.

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        2. Darryn M. Briggs‏ @darryn_briggs 29 Jun 2019
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          Joe Manchin voters are Republicans who see no discernible difference between Manchin & Republicans. They're right.

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        3. kirk‏ @NotKovach 29 Jun 2019
          Replying to @darryn_briggs @DouthatNYT

          So I guess every time he votes with Democrats, where his colleague Capito doesn’t, is all the same to you? You’d just as soon a Republican hold his seat?

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        2. S. Jay‏ @SJayToday 29 Jun 2019
          Replying to @DouthatNYT

          What should be obvious is a Joe manchin type could beat Trump I think easily. All the Liberals would be forced to vote for him and he would draw significant numbers of those who settled for Trump

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        3. David Nelson‏ @DavidNe41143027 29 Jun 2019
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          No urban voters are going to vote for a Joe Manchin type, and such a candidate would have zero chance of winning. If the base stays home, Trump wins,

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        1. Bob ...Shadoobie ... Berry‏ @monsoon2112 29 Jun 2019
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          yess, we'll take advice from the same ppl who paved the way for trump to rise. it is funny, ever since 2018 - you clowns act like it never existed.

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        1. T. Mashburn‏ @tamashburn 29 Jun 2019
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          Dude, don't talk about WV. This state is unique and its politics do not apply elsewhere. I live here and am not from here so I see it.

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