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NYTimes columnist, National Review film critic, author of The Decadent Society (2020) and The Deep Places (2021), jottings at https://douthat.substack.com 

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    1. Ross Douthat‏Verified account @DouthatNYT 5 Jun 2019

      Ross Douthat Retweeted Lyman Stone 石來民  🦬 🦬 🦬

      Second, @lymanstoneky making the point that lots of religious conservatives are instinctively fusionist, not just making a bargain with other factions on the right:https://twitter.com/lymanstoneky/status/1136076640780337158 …

      Ross Douthat added,

      Lyman Stone 石來民  🦬 🦬 🦬 @lymanstoneky
      I think @DouthatNYT on Ahmari v. French is good. However, what I wish he mentioned is the reason fusionism works/ed is because social conservatives do actually tend to also value smaller government and more aggressive foreign policy than the median voter. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/04/opinion/conservatives-david-french-trump.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage …
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    2. Ross Douthat‏Verified account @DouthatNYT 5 Jun 2019

      One way to think about this is that there are lots of somewhat apolitical right-leaning voters who fall into the culturally conservative/economically populist zone on this chart. But ...pic.twitter.com/su6gOVvwol

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    3. Ross Douthat‏Verified account @DouthatNYT 5 Jun 2019

      ... high-information conservatives are still much more likely to be fusionists. And so are the people they're most likely to read and invite to speak, from @benshapiro to @charliekirk11, whose respective audiences are vaster than most post-fusionists.

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    4. Ross Douthat‏Verified account @DouthatNYT 5 Jun 2019

      Most, but not all. It's notable that Fox's 8 PM primetime host is a post-fusionist. It's notable that figures like Josh Hawley are trying to make political names for themselves in that space.

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    5. Ross Douthat‏Verified account @DouthatNYT 5 Jun 2019

      But the combination of high-info normie conservatives being fusionist and DONORS being either fusionist or just pure libertarian gives fusionism a lot more resilience than you might think just following intellectual-conservative trends and fights.

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    6. Ross Douthat‏Verified account @DouthatNYT 5 Jun 2019

      (thread suspended for dinner; will resume)

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    7. Ross Douthat‏Verified account @DouthatNYT 5 Jun 2019

      Ross Douthat Retweeted Joe Gabriel Simonson

      Right, so while my thread on the resilience of fusionism was in abeyance for dinner/bedtime, this happened:https://twitter.com/SaysSimonson/status/1136425598082064384 …

      Ross Douthat added,

      Joe Gabriel SimonsonVerified account @SaysSimonson
      Tucker Carlson came out in favor of Warren’s economic plan tonight. Here are some excerpts: pic.twitter.com/DdGNTxZJDm
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    8. Ross Douthat‏Verified account @DouthatNYT 5 Jun 2019

      But let's just plow on. Basically, socon populism has a plausible constituency but weak donor/high-info conservative support. So its most plausible political path is through presidential politics, where low-info voters pay more attention and party control increasingly looks weak.

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    9. Ross Douthat‏Verified account @DouthatNYT 5 Jun 2019

      In other words, the Trump model: Use a heterodox message to rally support for a semi-hostile takeover. Q is how much of Trump's ascent is reducible to his celebrity + birther-type norm-breaking, rather than his heterodoxy.

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    10. Ross Douthat‏Verified account @DouthatNYT 5 Jun 2019

      Could Trump have a socon/populist successor who follows his path with a more theorized, less race-baiting message? I think so. There's more thinking + infrastructure for such a run than when Huckabee or Santorum tried it. However ...

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      Ross Douthat‏Verified account @DouthatNYT 5 Jun 2019

      ... you can very easily see how the GOP + conservatism just returns to fusionist normal, with a Dem president uniting the factions in opposition and then someone like Nikki Haley running on a very generic campaign and beating Josh Hawley or Tucker Carlson or whomever.

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        1. Ross Douthat‏Verified account @DouthatNYT 5 Jun 2019

          Fusionism struggles to govern effectively because its small-government vision can't be fulfilled and so it lapses into pro-business pork-barrelism. But can it remain (or return to being) the ideology of the anti-liberal blocking coalition after Trump? Yes, it very plausibly can.

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        2. Damon Linker‏Verified account @DamonLinker 5 Jun 2019
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          Sure, this is possible. But maybe it's because you're used to being disappointed by so many reformocon defeats that you take this fusionist status quo as if it's written in stone. It isn't. It's contingent on an alignment of elite and popular forces that is now waning.

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        3. Ross Douthat‏Verified account @DouthatNYT 5 Jun 2019
          Replying to @DamonLinker

          Hey, I'm always being accused (mostly by @jonathanchait) of foreseeing a right-populist dawn that never comes. And I'm just suggesting that there's more stalemate in the system that it seems like when you're on Twitter.

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        2. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson 5 Jun 2019
          Replying to @DouthatNYT

          Hawley’s her vp!

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        3. Damon Linker‏Verified account @DamonLinker 5 Jun 2019
          Replying to @yeselson @DouthatNYT

          Hawley will be Tucker Carlson's vp.

          0 replies 2 retweets 7 likes
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