ultimately, they are
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Replying to @Depopulatus @dcxtv
Darwin's idea of world-as-a-learning-machine (which he himself did not fully understand, but which we can appreciate today thanks to disciplines like machine learning) is fairly fundamental in the domain of How-The-World-Works. Deleuze also talks about it, misunderstanding Darwin
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Replying to @Locus_of_Ctrl @dcxtv
Maybe you begin to see how revolutionary Deleuze was in thinking and understanding and developing an ontology around these concepts before machine learning was viable.
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Replying to @Depopulatus @dcxtv
there is nothing revolutionary in his thought; it's mostly devolutionary. Darwin was far more revolutionary.
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Replying to @Locus_of_Ctrl @dcxtv
And Prigogine? Is he devolutionary as well?
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Replying to @Depopulatus @dcxtv
which one of his claims you're thinking of? I am not a physicist
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Replying to @Locus_of_Ctrl @dcxtv
The entire theory of nonlinearity and self-organizing systems is Prigogine’s contribution, and Darwinism (as well as everything else) has had to reflect that. You’re retconning Darwin with much later ideas—which he no doubt intuited.
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Replying to @Depopulatus @dcxtv
When talking about Darwinism (though not Darwin), I am justified in "retconning" because Darwinism is still the main "narrative" in biology to which things are "retconned"
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There are multiple cases of people trying (mostly unsuccessfully) to bring ideas from physics into biology -- this includes things like emergence, quantum mechanics, entropy, and so on. Most biologists do not take this very seriously.
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Now you’re positing that Darwinism is NOT nonlinear, a physics concept? OK.
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