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    Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 18. sij
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    Gotta snark a bit more about the Victorian obsession with the Minoans before I sign off for the weekend. Pt. 1: The case of the extremely Victorian goddess https://twitter.com/Delafina777/status/1217193460068802560 … Pt. 2: The joys of being an utterly contextless artifact https://twitter.com/Delafina777/status/1217975379039637504 … and now, Pt. 3

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    where was I? oh yeah, bagging on Arthur Evans, better get back to that Start here: https://twitter.com/Delafina777/status/1217193460068802560 …
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      2. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 18. sij
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        So yeah, "Minoan" refers to the idea that Crete was ruled by King Minos, who ruled a mighty maritime empire from the island. He's mentioned by Thucydides and Herodotus, and IIRC, there's been stuff found in Mesopotamian ruins made with materials that may have come from Crete.

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      3. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 18. sij
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        So it's probably likely that the ancient Cretans, during the period that we now call "Minoan," were part of an active, interconnected Mediterranean society that stretched from Persia to Greece, that they were a powerful maritime culture, and even that they had a king named Minos.

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      4. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 18. sij
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        (Irony sidebar: in all of this Victorian rush to prove the superiority of European culture over that of the ancient Near East and Africa, they're lionizing a dude who's the son of Europa, a Phoenician (Canaanite) princess. Like, the very NAME comes from a Middle Eastern woman.)

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      5. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 18. sij
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        So anyway, because Diodoros distinguished between two different kings named Minos, Arthur Evans decided that "Minos" was actually a title like "Pharaoh" rather than a name (because that's... way more likely than being named for a great-grandparent?).

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      6. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 18. sij
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        Thus, "Minoan" could be used to refer to the culture of Bronze Age Crete. Voila. The Minoans. And, okay. We had to call them something, and we don't know what they called themselves because they left behind no writing that we can read.

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      7. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 18. sij
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        We might, however, have tried our best to call them whatever they called themselves, or at least what their contemporaries called their culture, which according to Egyptian and Neo-Assyrian records was probably Keftiu or Kaptara. I guess a British guy needed to name them, tho.

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      8. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 18. sij
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        So anyway, Evans had a model in mind for his attempts to reconstruct this society, and that model was another "benevolent" island empire: the Victorian Empire and its ruler, Queen Victoria. With some flourishes from Egypt and Mesopotamia, of course.

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      9. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 18. sij
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        So he definitely had a very specific project in his fascination with the area, & that was to prove that ancient Europeans were as literate as their Near Eastern/African contemporaries. So he was on the hunt for script, carved gemstones with "alphabetic"-looking symbols, anything.

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      10. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 18. sij
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        Now, I dunno, it might be worth stepping back for a moment here and asking WHY this particular signifier was so important. Our entire conception of what makes a "sophisticated" or "important" society is largely based on what records they leave behind.

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      11. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 18. sij
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        And we tend to focus on writing because the modern West is a very writing-centered culture. But cultures that don't center writing aren't necessarily less sophisticated (and we might even question what we mean by "sophistication"). They're definitely not objectively "better."

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      12. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 18. sij
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        They're just easier for us to understand, because unless their descendants are still maintaining those oral traditions, we don't know what they are.

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      13. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 18. sij
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        The Minoans DID employ a writing system, of course, but it hasn't been deciphered. So all we really can know about them comes from their art, architecture, objects, etc. They can't *talk* to us the way, say, the Sumerians can.

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      14. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 18. sij
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        And ironically, despite Arthur Evans' obsession with using the Minoans to prove ancient European literacy, it ended up being far more convenient for him (and other Victorians of his mindset generally) that they didn't have any writings we could read. Blank slate.

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      15. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 18. sij
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        So anyway, giant palace at Knossos, CLEARLY King Minos's palace. Evans found some inscribed tablets there and decided they must be the Law of Minos. Evans declared Minos "another Moses or Hammurabi, receiving the law from the hands of the divinity himself..."

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      16. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 18. sij
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        They were deciphered after his death, and turned out to most likely be Mycenaean, not Minoan. They were also inventory lists, not laws.

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      17. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 18. sij
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        He found a big chair, called it the "Throne of Ariadne," but later changed his mind and decided it was the seat of a priest-king, and declared it "the oldest throne in Europe."

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      18. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 18. sij
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        He wrote volumes about how (in Lapatin's words) it was a "peaceful European island nation, led by an enlightened aristocracy, ruling a maritime empire and producing sophisticated, refined artworks." You know, like England.

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      19. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 18. sij
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        He compared it to Florence under the Medici, to the princely establishments of Germany, to places in France. And of course, everyone else took up that note. The figure in this fresco was dubbed La Parisienne.pic.twitter.com/JXHH99jHaM

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      20. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 18. sij
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        And Evans wrote "there has come into view a primitive European civilization, the earliest phase of which goes back even beyond the days of the First Dynasty of Egypt." Hor-Aha took the throne around 3100 BCE but okay?

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      21. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 18. sij
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        So anyway, Evans believed that the Minoans were superior to their successors, and to the Mycenaeans of the Greek mainland, who he characterized as completely dependant on the Minoans. Citation needed, as we poor unenlightened Internetters would say.

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      22. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 18. sij
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        But of course ancient Greece was all the rage, from Leighton's paintings of Greek ladies chatting to Isadora Duncan and Nijinsky bringing classical influences into dance.pic.twitter.com/BgUU14Ccyd

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      23. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 18. sij
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        And the Minoan art style was so pleasingly modern! Like Art Noveau!

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      24. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 18. sij
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        Oh yeah, speaking of Isadora Duncan, she showed up at Knossos, where, upon seeing the Grand Staircase, she "could not contain herself and threw herself into one of her impromptu dances." she sounds utterly insufferable

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      25. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 18. sij
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        and her whole thing was being scared of ragtime because Black people (I'm not making this up) pretty sure what everyone ACTUALLY liked about her was her costumes

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      26. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 18. sij
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        anyway, gotta go, but when I pick this up again: Evans worldbuilds a matriarchal religion (but don't worry, it was just an "inferior" stage of development to patriarchy!)

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      27. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 28. sij
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        Jessica Price je proslijedio/a tweet korisnika/ceJessica Price

        This continues here:https://twitter.com/Delafina777/status/1222044674237464578 …

        Jessica Price je dodan/na,

        Jessica Price @Delafina777
        Okay, so anyway, here's parts 1-3 about Most Of What We Know About The Minoans Is A Scam, and I'm going to get some tea and proceed with part 4. https://twitter.com/Delafina777/status/1218334882239143936 …
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