There's a nuanced and important discussion to be had here about creators and fandom and how much responsibility creators bear for the behavior of the communities they create. (I think Critical Role itself is trying but something's not working because its fandom is often gross.)https://twitter.com/ajitgeorgeSB/status/1105335189423583233 …
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And we can talk all day about moderation strategies and how to write codes of conduct and how to enforce them and where the line is that should get someone booted from spaces a creator controls and what to do about spaces they don't until we're all blue in the face.
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Those actually are very important discussions--and setting up this stuff absolutely IS a form of creators working to fulfill responsibility for the communities they create--but they're not the ones I'm talking about here.
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I'm talking about creators being willing to own up to the power they have by saying straight out--not through a PR person, not through a moderator, not through a code of conduct--but directly, out of their own mouths, "we don't want this behavior."
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And I know that Critical Role people HAVE done this--this is largely not a discussion about Critical Role in particular, but just sparked by the question of "why can CR be progressive and kind and large swaths of its fan base be awful?"
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But I'm also noting that creators being willing to say, straight out, "if you harass people who don't like what we make, we don't want you in our community," should be the *minimum* bar.
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Oh, and, discussions I'm not having here: --Critical Role is progressive! They support diverse creators! (Sure. But the lack of diversity on the show itself is an issue.)
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--Critical Role's fan community is wonderful! (It may be. Most fan communities have wonderful PARTS, or they'd have died out. But the fact that people are afraid to criticize CR because its fans will come for them is evidence enough that there are strong toxic elements.)
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--That's just the way fandom/the internet is! (See above. "This is the way it is" != "this is the way it should/must be.")
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You want to have those discussions, go do it somewhere else. You have the rest of the whole wide internet to do it. This thread is my space, and if you can't respect the parameters of the discussion I've laid down, you're going to get blocked.
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So, back to the point: I think the minimum bar for creators is being willing to say, explicitly, out of their own mouths: "Stop it. We don't want this behavior in our community." That's the minimum bar. I'm interested in what other ways they can use their influence to stop it.
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And to be clear: none of this is a criticism of the Critical Role cast as people. I don't know most of them, but I do know Matt Mercer is a sweetheart, and they've done way more than most creators are willing to in terms of saying, "this isn't okay."
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What I'm saying is "in the way this world SHOULD look, creators would do more than just say, 'don't harass people' when their fans are harassing people. What would that "more" look like?"
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