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    1. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 12. ožu 2019.
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      Jessica Price je proslijedio/a tweet korisnika/ceAjit George

      There's a nuanced and important discussion to be had here about creators and fandom and how much responsibility creators bear for the behavior of the communities they create. (I think Critical Role itself is trying but something's not working because its fandom is often gross.)https://twitter.com/ajitgeorgeSB/status/1105335189423583233 …

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      To the one from Polygon? I didn't look. I assumed Critters flooded it with negativity. Which begs a question: If the Critical Role team has nurtured all this progressive awesomeness, why are such large swaths of their fans so awful?
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    2. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 12. ožu 2019.
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      Obviously companies and other creators aren't 100% responsible for the behavior of their fan communities--fans are independent actors. At the same time, though, I think it's naive to say that they have no influence over them, so it's not 0% either.

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    3. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 12. ožu 2019.
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      And it's not like I care about figuring out WHERE on that spectrum between 0 and 100 creators' influence lies. That's not important. What is important is that given that it's not 0%, what responsibility do they have?

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    4. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 12. ožu 2019.
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      I think the minimum bar for meeting that responsibility is to make clear, explicitly and repeatedly, that they disapprove of harassment/threats/etc. And I'm not talking about putting boilerplate in their code of conduct.

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    5. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 12. ožu 2019.
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      I mean saying, repeatedly and explicitly, "If you think it's okay to send threats to people who criticize our show/game/whatever, to keep harassing them about it when they've told you to stop, we don't want you in our community."

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    6. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 12. ožu 2019.
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      And if you step back for a moment from the *norm* for online discourse and geek communities, which is awful, broken, and toxic, in which the default is to protect abusers and punish people who identify them as abusers, and imagine what actual *healthy communities* look like...

      1 reply 3 proslijeđena tweeta 58 korisnika označava da im se sviđa
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    7. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 12. ožu 2019.
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      ...being willing to say, "if you harass people, we don't want you in our community" is, like, the lowest possible bar. It's a *given.* Sending threats because someone criticizes a show or a game is behavior that no one should WANT to be around.

      1 reply 8 proslijeđenih tweetova 79 korisnika označava da im se sviđa
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    8. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 12. ožu 2019.
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      And creators should be horrified enough that it's being done in their name that saying, "No, we don't want this, stop it," is also a given.

      1 reply 2 proslijeđena tweeta 61 korisnik označava da mu se sviđa
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    9. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 12. ožu 2019.
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      And yes, thank you, I'm aware that practically any online community of any size is toxic. I'm aware that harassment is the norm in fan communities. I don't think CR's community is *unusually* bad.

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    10. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 12. ožu 2019.
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      I am profoundly, wearily uninterested in "but that's just the way it is!" arguments as a response to "this needs to be addressed." They boil down to "life isn't fair" as a response to human behavior. And that's a bullshit argument.

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      Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 12. ožu 2019.
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      Floods aren't fair. Accidents aren't fair. Disease isn't fair. Shitty human behavior? Is unjust. It's not chance. It's done by humans and humans can (and must) fix it.

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        2. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 12. ožu 2019.
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          And we can talk all day about moderation strategies and how to write codes of conduct and how to enforce them and where the line is that should get someone booted from spaces a creator controls and what to do about spaces they don't until we're all blue in the face.

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        3. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 12. ožu 2019.
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          Those actually are very important discussions--and setting up this stuff absolutely IS a form of creators working to fulfill responsibility for the communities they create--but they're not the ones I'm talking about here.

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        4. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 12. ožu 2019.
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          I'm talking about creators being willing to own up to the power they have by saying straight out--not through a PR person, not through a moderator, not through a code of conduct--but directly, out of their own mouths, "we don't want this behavior."

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        5. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 12. ožu 2019.
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          And I know that Critical Role people HAVE done this--this is largely not a discussion about Critical Role in particular, but just sparked by the question of "why can CR be progressive and kind and large swaths of its fan base be awful?"

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        6. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 12. ožu 2019.
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          But I'm also noting that creators being willing to say, straight out, "if you harass people who don't like what we make, we don't want you in our community," should be the *minimum* bar.

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        7. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 12. ožu 2019.
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          Oh, and, discussions I'm not having here: --Critical Role is progressive! They support diverse creators! (Sure. But the lack of diversity on the show itself is an issue.)

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        8. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 12. ožu 2019.
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          --Critical Role's fan community is wonderful! (It may be. Most fan communities have wonderful PARTS, or they'd have died out. But the fact that people are afraid to criticize CR because its fans will come for them is evidence enough that there are strong toxic elements.)

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        9. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 12. ožu 2019.
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          --That's just the way fandom/the internet is! (See above. "This is the way it is" != "this is the way it should/must be.")

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        10. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 12. ožu 2019.
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          You want to have those discussions, go do it somewhere else. You have the rest of the whole wide internet to do it. This thread is my space, and if you can't respect the parameters of the discussion I've laid down, you're going to get blocked.

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        11. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 12. ožu 2019.
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          So, back to the point: I think the minimum bar for creators is being willing to say, explicitly, out of their own mouths: "Stop it. We don't want this behavior in our community." That's the minimum bar. I'm interested in what other ways they can use their influence to stop it.

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        12. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 12. ožu 2019.
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          And to be clear: none of this is a criticism of the Critical Role cast as people. I don't know most of them, but I do know Matt Mercer is a sweetheart, and they've done way more than most creators are willing to in terms of saying, "this isn't okay."

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        13. Jessica Price‏ @Delafina777 12. ožu 2019.
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          What I'm saying is "in the way this world SHOULD look, creators would do more than just say, 'don't harass people' when their fans are harassing people. What would that "more" look like?"

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