Jordan Peterson holds biology to be very important. You will just prove him right if you try to use this against him.
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Replying to @Gulag_Destroyer @DegenRolf
Nah, if you ask about gay parents, he'll rant about research comparing "intact heterosexual 2-parent households" to 1-parent households (as if the main diff isn't economics, but having role models of both sexes) and imply that, ceteris paribus, gay parents can't be as good
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Replying to @KingOfInternet @DegenRolf
Just because this research shows that children of gay parents following normal dress codes doesn't mean that they are not more prone to suicide and depression.
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If the data shows that what he said is correct then what is the problem? You control for education level, wealth and other relevant factors of the parents so that you get accurate effects of 2 same gender parents vs the normal parenting..
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Replying to @Gulag_Destroyer @KingOfInternet
They are as well adjusted as their peers in the best available data. As much as I respect Peterson, if he says otherwise, he's wrong. Although, effects of parenting on psychological traits are ALWAYS negligible; saying otherwise is usually a fallacy of the "nurture" fraction.
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He says something about families where the father is missing, not necessarily from the home the kids are growing but from the environment too. That is, even if a father is not present in the house, having fathers around, like friends, is beneficial.
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Given the fact that there is now overwhelming evidence from several large scale studies and meta-analyses for these kids being well adjusted, the debate seems idle. Also, parenting doesn't affect personality: https://plus.google.com/101046916407340625977/posts/NzThLg3Tz5v …
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How is "parenting doesn't affect personality" proved or justified, unless one postulates that twin siblings are also psychologically identical on birth? It seems to me impossible to test, since the same kid would need to be "patented" differently to compare the outcome.
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If parenting had an effect, unrelated adoptive siblings would have to become more similar in personality, being raised in the same home. They demonstrably don't. And this is also seen in normal siblings, which are overwhelmingly different. Parents with several children learn it.
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On that premise, I agree. I have two brothers, quite different from me, IQ, profession, school, etc. However, question is: Had I been raised differently, how much my personality (innate and acquired traits) would have been different? Impossible to say. :)
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If you read my feature about Second Nurture, it is not about "being raised", but about the unique, idiosyncratic experiences which interact with your unique genetic makeup. Parenting is a sideshow.
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I agree, completely, up the point of parenting being the side show. I see it as part of the show, maybe most important in the first act of the show. I have a 15yo son and now I see how I am less and less influent in his life. But I do feel responsible for his growing up.
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However, I'm not an expert, so I apologize if I insisted too much on this. I appreciate the answers and will dig further into the references in your article! So, thank you! :)
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