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    1. Claire Lehmann‏Verified account @clairlemon Jan 27
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      "Sentience extends to cows, chicken, pigs & even fish. These are beings with a consciousness. They experience pleasure and pain, bond with their young & pursue their own purposes, even if they are simple purposes such as seeking food"https://quillette.com/2020/01/27/the-libertarian-case-for-rejecting-meat-consumption/ …

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    2. Rolf Degen‏ @DegenRolf Jan 27
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      86% of self-declared vegetarians returned to eating meat; 60-66% hat eaten meat during the last 24 hours.

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    3. Stylez Furrybuttons‏ @Furrybuttons Jan 27
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      That's one study in United States where there are fewer veggies than most. It also fails to actually, you know, engage the argument. People do all kinds of unethical things. That doesnt change whether it is ethical or not.

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    4. Rolf Degen‏ @DegenRolf Jan 27
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      I have seen similar results from other countries, for example Switzerland. And I don't ask if it is ethical, but if it is doable, for the masses.

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    5. Stylez Furrybuttons‏ @Furrybuttons Jan 27
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      Well it would be interesting to see how a group (say at a nation state level) would respond to a real push for more plant-based living. Through tax breaks, wide-scale nudging and overall vegetarian friendly cultural reform could there be a dramatic change in those numbers?

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    6. Rolf Degen‏ @DegenRolf Jan 27
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      In order to get a large majority of people go vegetarian, you would have to take extremely UNLIBERTARIAN measures. I definitely do not want to be part of that experiment.

      4 replies 2 retweets 19 likes
    7. Stylez Furrybuttons‏ @Furrybuttons Jan 27
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      I dont mean in that sense. Consider the shift in views on gay marriage, abortion or environmental protection. Why couldn't a similar shift occur with vegetarianism? Govts use econ incentives in every aspect of our lives now - this is innocuous and has positive externalities.

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    8. Rolf Degen‏ @DegenRolf Jan 27
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      Because eating meat is really ingrained in our biological nature: https://twitter.com/DegenRolf/status/1178901125908570112?s=20 … Also, feasting on (and sharing) meat is epitome of celebrating among indigenous people and in history, up to barbecuing and Sunday roast.

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      Related: We are evolutionary adapted to eating meat. https://twitter.com/DegenRolf/status/1170014173809577986?s=20 …
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    9. Stylez Furrybuttons‏ @Furrybuttons Jan 27
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      I think the numbers will rise. The ethical implications are pretty clear. Humans have had many questionable traditions fall by the wayside and an appeal to nature is outmoded. We don't accept that line of reasoning when eco-fascists spout it so why should I about boxstore steak.

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      Rolf Degen‏ @DegenRolf Jan 27
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      Replying to @Furrybuttons @clairlemon

      I would take a bet with you that it wont. Just read that in India, more people have started eating meat, often even secretly. The ethical implications are FAR more complicated if you dig into the matter, as I did in recent years. Many lies and fake information flying around.

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        2. Jens Ulrich‏ @jensulrich Jan 28
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          Can you recommend some good place to read up on the ethical implications?

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        3. Stylez Furrybuttons‏ @Furrybuttons Jan 28
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          Of course he can't.

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