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    Rolf Degen‏ @DegenRolf 6 Dec 2019
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    The famous Libet experiment, seeming to show that the mind is just a shadow of activity in the brain, is so flawed, that one has to ask why many intellectuals are so obsessed with propagating its gist. https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/how-a-flawed-experiment-proved-that-free-will-doesnt-exist/ …pic.twitter.com/2AFeSEYlju

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      2. Rolf Degen‏ @DegenRolf 6 Dec 2019
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        Replying to @taylorgrayson

        I have no interest in the paranormal/transcendental. I just tend to notice that the denial of free will always boils down to "there is determinism out there, so no free will". People mistake determinism for a proved theory, while it is unprovable, just an evolved assumption.

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      3. A Yak Named Jason‏ @Erasmus111 7 Dec 2019
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        The physics that underpins determinism lets us accurately send space vehicles millions of miles away from Earth. What is the best alternative to determinism?

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      1. Rolf Degen‏ @DegenRolf 6 Dec 2019
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        Determinism cannot be "proved", it is an innate rational instrument that works, but must not be "true".

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      2. Daniel Fischer‏ @cosmos4u 7 Dec 2019
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        Replying to @DegenRolf @IanAdAstra

        The counter arguments in this piece are *all* vague and speculative, in contrast to the transparent original experiment - is this really all the free will believers have come up with in decades? (A really surprised reader.)

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        There is way more wrong with the Libet experiment, for example this:https://twitter.com/DegenRolf/status/1173123881693057025?s=20 …

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        The fabled Libet experiment, showing that the brain makes choices before we become aware of them, may have fallen victim to the reproducibility crisis. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2019/09/free-will-bereitschaftspotential/597736/ … pic.twitter.com/m7AxBwtVrm
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      1. Ian‏ @IanAdAstra 7 Dec 2019
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        1/2 sec delay seems a long & oft unrealistic respond time for many dangerous situations.Irregardless what's needed are involuntary correlate of awhareness to more accurately benchmark initial action recognition. High res MRI or CAT should sub for EEG in detecting neural activity.

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      1. YFRDust‏ @YFRDust 8 Dec 2019
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        Alfred R. Mele produced a good book in which he shows many of the flaws associated with the experiment, if anyone's interested. Free, Why Science Hasn't Disproved Free Will - Oxford University Press. He also talks about more recent experiments in the same vein, very interesting

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