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Lisa Feldman Barrett debunks "zombie ideas" from the field of psychology. https://www.psychologicalscience.org/observer/zombie-ideas …pic.twitter.com/UnNcQ5w8Ti
No she doesn't. She references Jeanne Bovet's work, specifically https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2019.01221/full … and Jennions & Moller, specifically https://www.researchgate.net/publication/227315551_How_Much_Variance_Can_Be_Explained_by_Ecologists_and_Evolutionary_Biologists … and the much derided "The Evolution of Beauty" by Prum, which, well; Read Jerry Allen Coyne's words on it.https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2018/11/25/a-critical-review-of-prums-the-evolution-of-beauty-in-evolution/ …
Bovet's work does not discard WHR, but rather seeks to examine whether it is a sole factor in reproductive success, and often finds that it is entangled with other similar cues as a redundant signal, or that there's another factor tied to it- that it isn't SOLELY responsible.
Jennions and Moller don't disprove body symmetry, either, though they do indicate that there is an issue with the variance in studies and how they are read (Only one that I can find of theirs in 2002 that might be meant, as it's also referenced here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4685550/ …).
I'll stop there, since they are front and central to the article; there might be some honest points made, but the fact that she writes as she does about these studies as if they actually say what she wants them to say when they don't is, at the very least, worrisome.
Thank you, @KainYusanagi, for expressing those concerns. I was going to reply to the OP with something like, “No evolutionary psychologist I’ve read claimed women of a certain WHR *are* more fertile,” but your reply was far more thorough and cogent.
Waist to hip ratio has long been assumed to signal fertility, but this has been refuted. https://twitter.com/search?q=%40DegenRolf%20curves&src=typeahead_click …
And once again: I’ve never read any evolutionary psychologist claim that men are attracted by certain WHR’s because they are a reliable predictor of fertility. That’s not a minor detail, it’s a major recasting of the argument.
"Singh (1993a, 1993b) suggested that men are attracted to low WHRs and BMIs because they are signs of enhanced female health and fertility, and this idea has been widely accepted " https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Fatik_Mandal/publication/232251330_Mate_Choice_in_Human/links/09e4150800b680de31000000/Mate-Choice-in-Human.pdf …
Section 2.6; "Men are attracted to low WHR in females, and ... WHR correlate with youth, fertility, and health". Also, "However, it should be noted that Singh and Young (1995) acknowledged that women with low BMIs and low WHRs are less fecund than heavier women with low WHRs..."
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