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    Rolf Degen‏ @DegenRolf 29 Aug 2018
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    Eating beef, if animal welfare and deaths per calorie created are considered, is less of a problem compared to consuming milk, or, consequently, its irresistible refinement, cheese. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10806-018-9740-9 …pic.twitter.com/SA4zWxSVj5

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      2. Rolf Degen‏ @DegenRolf 30 Aug 2018
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        Replying to @AcostaRomay

        Cheese substantially reduces the amount of exploited energy, compared to milk. But still, it makes it more durable - and the taste is a lot better.

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      2. Avi Norowitz‏ @AviN102 30 Aug 2018
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        Replying to @DegenRolf @ModeledBehavior

        The use of the term "meat" in the paper is misleading because this argument applies to beef only. Chicken, turkey, and pork all cause many times more farm animal suffering than dairy.

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      3. Avi Norowitz‏ @AviN102 30 Aug 2018
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        But also, if we're talking about non-flesh animal products that cause farm animal suffering, we should really be focusing on eggs which cause many times more suffering than dairy, beef, or pork.

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      2. Max Nardo  🌱‏ @MaxNardoCO 30 Aug 2018
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        Glossing over the error in caloric content of milk, per calorie might not be the most relevant way to look at this. Omnivores consume FAR more meat than vegetarians do dairy in caloric terms. Total calories consumed is not a a factor that should be dismissed here.

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      3. Max Nardo  🌱‏ @MaxNardoCO 30 Aug 2018
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        You could tell me cucumbers are as resource intensive per calorie as veal, but that doesn't make cucumber consumption a global concern

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      2. jonesgary‏ @jonesgary 29 Aug 2018
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        The use of sex selected semen to produce more female calves is a large and growing practice. A female is worth many times what a male is worth, so the cost of sexed semen is relatively small.

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      3. Richard Johnston‏ @johnstonrichar4 29 Aug 2018
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        If the average dairy cow lives to 5 years, and produces 1 calf per year, where are all of those calves going? Male or female, the answer is, there is a surplus of dairy calves, hence there will be slaughters

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      1. Cult Cure‏ @CultCure5 29 Aug 2018
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        Shhsh, don't go bursting people's bubbles of binary morality!

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      2. HRoark Ⓥ‏ @SLCvegan 29 Aug 2018
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        If, by any metric you choose, you consider #AnimalWelfare , damage to the #environment , or human health, then a #plantbased lifestyle causes the least harm by far.pic.twitter.com/9quLccxLrC

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      3. Richard Johnston‏ @johnstonrichar4 29 Aug 2018
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        Replying to @SLCvegan @DegenRolf

        The article is not about veganism....

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