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    1. James McAsh‏ @mcash 22 Oct 2020

      How do you square "Labour lost because of its Brexit policy" with "Labour members should decide party policy"? It's tough given how many members either supported the policy or wanted it to be more 'Remain'.

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    2. Jack Buck‏ @jackbuck123 23 Oct 2020
      Replying to @mcash

      Just because members were wrong on Brexit doesn't mean the principle of democrat decision making is wrong. The movement made a mistake and needs to learn from that moving forward. Thats my take anyway.

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    3. James McAsh‏ @mcash 23 Oct 2020
      Replying to @jackbuck123

      Yeah, I think that's a fair position to take. But some seem to think we lost because we were betrayed or sabotaged from above (e.g. John McDonnell). Doesn't fit with reality of membership sentiment.

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      The Poisonous Euros Atmosphere Fan‏Verified account @DawnHFoster 23 Oct 2020
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      I agree with Jack’s take. Party policy doesn’t appear out of nowhere though, so I think it’s fine to criticise MPs who lobbied for positions you think were electorally ruinous?

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        2. Jim Monaghan‏ @JimMonaghan10 23 Oct 2020
          Replying to @DawnHFoster @mcash @jackbuck123

          yes, the members were sold a pup, we were told that not backing a second referendum was damaging, many who switched to back the new brexit policy were convinced of this

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        3. Catnip‏ @catnip2221 23 Oct 2020
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          But it's almost certain that we'd have lost as many (or more) seats if we'd have stuck by a leave position? Remainers would have supported and legitimised the LDs long-term. There were specific polling reasons that heavily implied a 2nd ref was the least worst option.

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        2. James McAsh‏ @mcash 23 Oct 2020
          Replying to @DawnHFoster @jackbuck123

          I guess the question is why support for 2nd ref was big in our voter base, and overwhelming in the membership? I think John McD / AEIP role was minor. It was much more in reaction to the horrors of the Tory Brexit proposals, and the absence of clearly articulated alternatives.

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