You have to be an Oxford University student to be a member of the Oxford Union the gymnastics of the University to pretend the behaviour or actions of the Union are a wholly separate thing, incl of a president from Oriel College, site of the Rhodes statue just conincidentally
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Replying to @omaromalleykhan
I agree that the Union is a disgrace, but what do you think, if anything, that the University can or should do about it, given that it isn't an official club, society, or student union under University jurisdiction?
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Replying to @chrisbrooke
Advise students not to become members or insist that they join merely as individuals, without reference to any uni affiliation. Agree it's not straightforward but in this case and many others the members are university students or staff which allows for more sanctioning?
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Replying to @omaromalleykhan @chrisbrooke
Yes, these were Oxford students involved, so the students responsible should be disciplined by the university.
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Replying to @DawnHFoster @chrisbrooke
Agree. And I think it's also at least as likely that their views, however considered, were cultivated within Oxford University, with the Union simply being the circus in which they perform
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Replying to @omaromalleykhan @chrisbrooke
My ex stalked and harassed me off campus and our university acted swiftly. Fail to see how this differs.
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But not all universities investigate off campus misconduct:https://www.theguardian.com/education/2019/nov/18/birmingham-university-refused-to-look-into-students-off-campus-rape-claim?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other …
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No, but they can, and clearly should in this case
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Clearly. But there is also a serious issue with racism in student unions http://gal-dem.com/why-we-need-to-talk-about-racism-within-students-unions/ … It’s not just a problem at the most elite institutions. .@sofia_akel
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Aye I know all this, and again, while universities may not intervene as much as they should, some do over union incidents. I don’t think the answer is to just let Oxford Uni off the hook here.
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I’m not saying that. I think both the university & the union need to launch investigations into this case.
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Here my radical proposal - abolish Oxbridge
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