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Husband, Father, Catholic, B.Sc. Physics, M.S.F. Finance, former atheist. Let's chat about God. ✝️ The Catholic Church is your birthright. ⛪️

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    1. Davis Blank‏ @DavisBlankEG Oct 10
      Replying to @DavisBlankEG @ajvasel

      Or v27 "when a wicked man turns away from the wickedness he has committed and does what is lawful and right, he shall save his life." To be saved the man had to turn from God and do good works / abstain from sin. Note how God says "he (the man) shall save his life"

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    2. Davis Blank‏ @DavisBlankEG Oct 10
      Replying to @DavisBlankEG @ajvasel

      Which is the Catholic interpretation of the Gospel. Only God can save, but it requires the cooperation of man. God cannot force a man to be saved. He gives the grace, the Faith, the indwelling of the Spirit, but at any moment man can reject it and be damned, as Ez 18 shows

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    3. Andrew V...‏ @ajvasel Oct 11
      Replying to @DavisBlankEG

      So, one who believes is not sealed by the Holy Spirit unto the day off redemption? (Ephesians 4:30)

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    4. Davis Blank‏ @DavisBlankEG Oct 11
      Replying to @ajvasel

      I can seal away a bag of cookies to cease my gluttony, but if I break the seal the protection ceases. 🍪 The Holy Spirit seals us in baptism, but consider all the surrounding text of Eph 4:30, its all warnings about what not to do (or else...)

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    5. Davis Blank‏ @DavisBlankEG Oct 11
      Replying to @DavisBlankEG @ajvasel

      Also consider that if the seal was unbreakable, a guaranteed deal, then what could it possibly matter if I do or do not grieve the Holy Spirit? The Holy Spirit either has or has not sealed me, so it is irrelevant what I do. What do you think the purpose of this verse is?

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    6. Andrew V...‏ @ajvasel Oct 13
      Replying to @DavisBlankEG

      Paul's point in using the word grieve is to demonstrate that the Holy Spirit is a person. This corresponds to how the person of the Holy Spirit is grieved when we speak unkindly to each other (4:29).

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    7. Davis Blank‏ @DavisBlankEG Oct 14
      Replying to @ajvasel

      Almost the entirety of Eph 4 is St. Paul telling and pleading with the Christians to do good and abstain from evil. Consider Eph 4;1 "beg you to lead a life worthy of the calling to which you have been called" this implies that it is possible for the called not to live that life

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    8. Davis Blank‏ @DavisBlankEG Oct 14
      Replying to @DavisBlankEG @ajvasel

      And in context of Eph 4 where St. Paul is telling a laundry list of things to do and not to do, it seems out of place for Eph 4:30 to solely be a theological point on the personhood of the Holy Spirit. While that is a valid & astute observation, the main point is another warning

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    9. Davis Blank‏ @DavisBlankEG Oct 14
      Replying to @DavisBlankEG @ajvasel

      Which just leads back to the main point of the Eph 4 (and truthfully the entire Gospel) - what is the point of all these warnings and directions to do good and abstain from evil IF it is *impossible* for a man to influence his salvation in any shape, form or manner?

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    10. Andrew V...‏ @ajvasel Oct 15
      Replying to @DavisBlankEG

      Because a man who is justified can still be tempted, he will still go through trials, and he still has a sin nature within him. He is not yet glorified. He will do these things as an expression of his love for Christ.

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      Davis Blank‏ @DavisBlankEG Oct 15
      Replying to @ajvasel

      Andrew, I think you hit the nail on the head with your final statement about doing this out of love. Gal 5:6 "For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision is of any avail, but faith working through love."

      11:39 PM - 15 Oct 2018
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        2. Davis Blank‏ @DavisBlankEG Oct 15
          Replying to @DavisBlankEG @ajvasel

          If we keep in mind that St. Paul was Saul, the Pharisee, and that he is writing against what he once was (now the Judaizers), he is explaining to them that the method of doing works of the Law, as if a business transaction, or debt payment, do not save at all

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        3. Andrew V...‏ @ajvasel Oct 16
          Replying to @DavisBlankEG

          I really don't see how you are distinguishing the good works that you say are required for salvation versus what the Judaizers also said was required for salvation. Both are advocating works-based salvation. They said circumcision was required - you say baptism is required.

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        4. Davis Blank‏ @DavisBlankEG Oct 17
          Replying to @ajvasel

          I say it because Scripture strongly suggests the necessity of baptism throughout the NT and it is foreshadowed in the OT. The NT explicitly rejects circumcision and so you and I both correctly reject it. The Church Fathers believed in necessity of baptism, too.

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        5. Davis Blank‏ @DavisBlankEG Oct 17
          Replying to @DavisBlankEG @ajvasel

          Justin Martyr (151 AD) Then they are brought by us where there is water and are regenerated in the same manner in which we were ourselves regenerated... they receive the washing with water. For Christ said “Unless you are born again you shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven”

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        6. Andrew V...‏ @ajvasel Oct 18
          Replying to @DavisBlankEG

          It seems that in Scripture that baptism was very closely associated in the linear event of salvation. We have a harder time seeing that association in a culture that *allows* baptisms years after profession of faith.

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        7. Davis Blank‏ @DavisBlankEG Oct 21
          Replying to @ajvasel

          Does Scripture say that "professing faith" (or any similar such phrasing, of course) indwells the Holy Spirit in man? I only see it doing so when combined with the washing of water. Water + profession = baptism = indwelling of Holy Spirit, new creature made

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        8. Andrew V...‏ @ajvasel Oct 23
          Replying to @DavisBlankEG

          Typically, the expression used is simply 'believed'. This will probably open a giant can of worms, but what of Acts 8? Belief, then baptism, and then later when Peter and John arrive, pray, and lay hands on the believers, the Holy Spirit is *visibly* observed

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        9. Davis Blank‏ @DavisBlankEG Oct 26
          Replying to @ajvasel

          Andrew, what an excellent question and can of worms to boot! I had to research this awhile for at first glance I thought I had made a major error somewhere. The first key is to understand Jesus instituted seven sacraments, the two here are Baptism & Confirmation

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