They showed no such thing. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-just-a-normal-polling-error-behind-clinton/ … https://mobile.twitter.com/mclvogt/status/968836930329874432?p=v …
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The national ones - the state polls were mostly bad.
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The state polls were not bad. In some states there weren't enough of them. In Florida there were plenty & it was clear that race was a tossup.
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Selzer polls in Iowa and Florida showed Trump leading. The Iowa poll showed with like a 7 point lead. The Florida poll had him up 2 points, which is exactly right.
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Selzer was one of the few pollsters to deviate and explained it by saying that the electorate looked pre-Obama which was dead on, that wasn't a fluke, that was being a good pollster
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I remember the one state polling shocker to me being Wisconsin. Marquette's last poll had Clinton up 6 and they're a great outfit
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All the WI polls were like that. And if WI was holding, an upset in PA/MI seemed quite impossible.
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The WI Marquette polling is a case of being off. But that's just one state and if Florida was in play than other states could to. Plus MI was trending Trump at the end.
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Thanks for replying in such a level-headed way repeatedly. Spending way too much time reading polls during the election, i guess i remember the outliers more than the average.
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