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improper analogy. How about: Immigration enforcement regs passed by legislation undone by exec order.
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i'm all for Congress doing it the right way but unless Trump is about to impose a tax on the entire country his order won't be similar
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This was the argument Obama and the Democrats made. That's all I'm saying.
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the argument that they made was that it was ok for Obama to invent things with executive orders. Trump expunging things with them is diff
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Fine to undo exec orders w/ exec orders. It's also fine to use exec orders where permissible. Undoing legislation w/ exec orders is not that
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i haven't read Trump's exec order but i was under the impression that it was changing the way that things were enforced, not creating
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...Some of it might be permissible. I was making a broader point, but then responded to your specific point.
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so assuming everything Trump says today is re: enforcement only, what's the problem?
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Theoretically, none. Again, I was making a broader point, but then we got into a different but related issue.
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was illegal on its face. Trump's exec order, if it brings some functionality or brings Ocare closer to proper law, is different
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What was illegal on its face?
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you can't compel people to buy something, that's why Roberts "discovered" that it was a tax instead
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But he did. And the Court's ruling is final until there's a new law or a new ruling. You're making the same arguments libs made.
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i dont accept that SCOTUS justices can imagine whatever they imagine & that it binds me. it has to be based in something
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Perfectly fine opinion. Decision still stands until another case comes forward w/ different result or Congress legislates.
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or until we all ignore it and do whatever we know makes more sense. SCOTUS has no power to enforce anything, past POTUS's have noted that
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it wasn't ever a tax, it says that explicitly in the law. Obama's exec orders were used to prop up a non-functional piece of garbage that-
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its not an improper analogy at all. outcomes matter, so does intent. Obamacare was implemented in an illegal way bc it was illegal
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