For Hill Rs, it's not that Trump cut a deal w/ Dems, it's that he blindsided & made them look foolish, &, parenthetically, took 1st offer.
I wasn't absolving them of all criticism. Hell I've beaten the heck out of them pretty good.
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R's gave the whole thing away by saying they'd raise debt ceiling no matter what. After that all Dems have to say is "no" to everything
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EVERYONE said this. But for some reason you're blaming only Cong. Rs. Saying this does not equal giving away leverage.
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if they actually wanted leverage they'd say they dont need to raise the limit at all bc it only affects discretionary spending
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They can't say that because they don't believe that. Financial markets don't either, incidentally.
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if i were to negotiate with you, and i started with your position, what am i negotiating from & what towards? they started with agreement
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I'm not being argumentative but I honestly don't believe that's required for good negotiating. I look at it more like buying/selling a house
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when you're buying or selling anything, you dont start with what the other person suggests. GOP did that this time
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if anything Trump spared Ryan & Mitch the humiliation of getting to 3 months all by themselves, which they 100% for sure would have
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Now we disagree again. You're speculating and w/ Trump's signature & Ryan/MM holding more votes, they had leverage.
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they had more leverage if Ryan could deliver his caucus. he can't though
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i'm not arguing with you specifically, just saying i dont know how a person seriously says Trump took first offer when R's caved on 2 first
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