The difference is, guns are legal and jumping the border is not. Reform yes, amnesty no.@DavidMDrucker @Thomasismyuncle
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@jeffersonianguy@Thomasismyuncle There will never be enough votes for reform w/out legalization. & that means political problem for Rs -
@DavidMDrucker@jeffersonianguy@Thomasismyuncle Why assume not votes 4 "enforcement 1st"? Sure Dems oppose but when's that end of argument? -
@kausmickey@jeffersonianguy@Thomasismyuncle 60 Senate votes & Dems have advantage politically & unlikely to let it go -
@davidmdrucker@jeffersonianguy@thomasismyuncle how any different from Ocare? Need a few defections over long run. Quite possible. -
@kausmickey@jeffersonianguy@thomasismyuncle Obamacare resulted from rare 60 vote majority f4 Ds. Anything possible but I'm talking general -
@davidmdrucker@jeffersonianguy@thomasismyuncle I meant how diff from ocare repeal/replace, where GOPs don't seem 2 have given up -
@kausmickey@jeffersonianguy@thomasismyuncle Oh, got it ... No reason to give up, good politics. - 4 more replies
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@DavidMDrucker problem is there is no one time bullet to bite. amnesties beget amnesties. they'd be right back where they are now in 8 years -
@conncarroll Also a valid argument. Which leads me once again back to my political point: Rs need to bite the bullet. -
@DavidMDrucker@conncarroll Seems like "Amnesty !st" failed in 2006/2007, maybe in 2014. Why R opponents ones who shld start biting things? -
@kausmickey@conncarroll because they're the ones hurting politically. -
@DavidMDrucker@kausmickey there is zero evidence amnesty would win Republicans any net votes. Latinos voted more Dem in 88 after 86 amnesty -
@conncarroll@kausmickey It's not amnesty itself. CIR is a gateway issue that would signal compassion vs hostility... -
@DavidMDrucker@conncarroll So would an amnesty that came after "Enforcement First" measures.
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@alaskaDJ It's not happening this year; no way. 2015 is possible. But I think ultimately about GOP nominee in 16. -
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@alaskaDJ There is no campaign right now. Maybe it happens maybe it doesn't. But wait until the campaign starts & we'll see. -
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@alaskaDJ Wait for the general election. You might be right. But too soon to tell.
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