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Lawyer turned writer, editor, and speaker. Founder, Above The Law (@ATLblog) and Underneath Their Robes. Author, Supreme Ambitions: A Novel (@SCOTUSambitions).

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    1. Katherine H. Ku‏ @KathyHKu Sep 9
      Replying to @DavidLat

      Did you know nothing about Kozinski until December?

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    2. David Lat‏Verified account @DavidLat Sep 9
      Replying to @KathyHKu

      I knew nothing of the allegations. I actually know less than many people about certain situations because people are so tight-lipped around me, fearing I'll blab & blog about them. For more discussion, seehttp://thepolitic.org/an-interview-with-david-lat-legal-scholar-and-author-of-supreme-ambitions/ …

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    3. Emily Murphy‏ @ProfEmilyMurphy Sep 9
      Replying to @DavidLat

      Did you know about the "Easy Rider Gag List" before the LA Times reported it in 2008?

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    4. David Lat‏Verified account @DavidLat Sep 9
      Replying to @ProfEmilyMurphy

      Caveat: I lost many emails when I switched cable internet providers after moving from New York to D.C. in 2006. It's possible that maybe one of those lost emails was an email from Kozinski somehow referencing the Gag List. But I do not recall any such email.

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    5. Leah Litman‏Verified account @LeahLitman Sep 9
      Replying to @DavidLat @ProfEmilyMurphy

      So now I'm curious: How did you feel or what did you think about the list and being left off the list (such as it was reported) as a journalist who covered Judge Kozinski pretty closely & had separate email exchanges with him?

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    6. David Lat‏Verified account @DavidLat Sep 9
      Replying to @LeahLitman @ProfEmilyMurphy

      To be totally honest, I will confess, with embarrassment/shame, that at the time I was miffed about being off the list (especially since the @WSJLawBlog mentioned journalists were on the list). But today, suffice it to say that I have a different reaction.

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    7. Emily Murphy‏ @ProfEmilyMurphy Sep 9
      Replying to @DavidLat @LeahLitman @WSJLawBlog

      Not sure I understand the timeline: a few tweets ago I asked if you knew of the list prior to the 2008 reports. You: "No, not that I can recall," and you looked at your old emails. But you do remember being "miffed," so when (and how) did you learn about it?

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    8. Katherine H. Ku‏ @KathyHKu Sep 9
      Replying to @ProfEmilyMurphy @DavidLat and

      David, I believe you said on Vice, to Dahlia Lithwick, Leah Litman and me, that men should just listen to #metoo. But many, if not most, women would prefer reflection, accountability and thoughtfulness.

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    9. Katherine H. Ku‏ @KathyHKu Sep 9
      Replying to @KathyHKu @ProfEmilyMurphy and

      Assuming a formal inquiry into the extent of what transpired in Alex Kozinski's chambers never occurs, we should at least have thoughtful conversations about why it happened--or, at least, why so many let red flags go, not just with silence but with affirmative adulation.

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    10. Katherine H. Ku‏ @KathyHKu Sep 9
      Replying to @KathyHKu @ProfEmilyMurphy and

      David, why didn't you investigate the rumors you heard about Alex? I ask respectfully. I'm trying to understand the silence that still blankets our profession on this subject, and many of the journalists covering it. I've acknowledged publicly why I was silent. Why were you?

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      David Lat‏Verified account @DavidLat Sep 10
      Replying to @KathyHKu @ProfEmilyMurphy and

      Finally, some of it was out of naivete. If you go back & read my early posts on Underneath Their Robes, you'll see that I worshiped federal judges (and of course still admire them today in many ways). But when I was younger, I thought they could do no wrong.

      7:19 AM - 10 Sep 2018
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        2. Katherine H. Ku‏ @KathyHKu Sep 10
          Replying to @DavidLat @ProfEmilyMurphy and

          Thank you. Dahlia Lithwick did the work of giving us the words to understand and explain our silence. But we need to move beyond her eloquent piece and find a way forward. Recalling where we went wrong with Alex and ending jurist worship is a first step.

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        3. Leah Litman‏Verified account @LeahLitman Sep 10
          Replying to @KathyHKu @DavidLat and

          And it's an important one! One of the things that has been most frustrating for me is that even now, everyone's impulse is to say "not me!" or "it was someone else's responsibility!" when we think about what could or should have been done.

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        4. Leah Litman‏Verified account @LeahLitman Sep 10
          Replying to @LeahLitman @DavidLat and

          But wow if we could have a conversation along the lines of "I saw this" or "I heard this" (which requires more than "I did not specifically know he showed his female law clerks porn and asked if it turned them on" and everyone ponying up & really thinking & digging back)...

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        5. Leah Litman‏Verified account @LeahLitman Sep 10
          Replying to @LeahLitman @DavidLat and

          And then we all think about what we did and why we did it-- such as at the time I wrote it off, or I didn't know what to do. That would be so helpful to thinking about how to do better the next time around, avoid the same mistakes, and prevent this from happening again.

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        6. Leah Litman‏Verified account @LeahLitman Sep 10
          Replying to @LeahLitman @DavidLat and

          Ex: I legitimately did not know where to go or what to do after he behaved so poorly last summer. It certainly wasn't enough, by itself, to be a "thing," but it was (and I knew it was) a sign that something was _really_ wrong and off.

          1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
        7. Leah Litman‏Verified account @LeahLitman Sep 10
          Replying to @LeahLitman @DavidLat and

          And the sad thing is I don't think we have established answers for what I should do (or what someone in my position should do) if it happens again. Again because no one wants to talk about it, or what they knew (or what they merely observed) too.

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