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    David Klion‏Verified account @DavidKlion 24h24 hours ago

    David Klion Retweeted Jennifer Bendery

    "Listen to Native voices," I was angrily told by leftists who listened to exactly one Native voice, an academic in Alberta, before deciding how to feel about Warren. Turns out Native voices aren't monolithic & also don't suspiciously align with the GOP's racist attacks on Warren.https://twitter.com/jbendery/status/1081189135166115840 …

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    Jennifer BenderyVerified account @jbendery
    Missing from so much of the news coverage of Native people being outraged by Elizabeth Warren's DNA test: Native voices. I asked prominent tribal leaders and Native people about it. Surprise: they said Warren is an ally and this narrative is media fodder. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/elizabeth-warren-dna-test-native-american_us_5c19550fe4b0432554c512bb …
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    21 replies . 61 retweets 258 likes
      1. David Klion‏Verified account @DavidKlion 24h24 hours ago

        A whole lot of you showed your asses on this one. btw, another widely cited (including in NYT) Native voice against Warren makes regular appearances on Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingraham. You're being spun.pic.twitter.com/p17JoArfxl

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      2. Fyodor‏ @Fyodor32768 24h24 hours ago
        Replying to @DavidKlion

        I don't think that the "native complaints" which are "she shouldn't claim ancestry she has no real connection to" are the same as the GOP claim , which is "affirmative action is a scam." Warren is honestly my favorite candidate from a merit perspective, 1/2

        1 reply . 0 retweets 5 likes
      3. Fyodor‏ @Fyodor32768 23h23 hours ago
        Replying to @Fyodor32768 @DavidKlion

        but I think what she did (as a college student) unseemly and the whole DNA stunt shows some tone deafness with respect to why people were upset 2/2

        1 reply . 0 retweets 2 likes
      4. David Klion‏Verified account @DavidKlion 23h23 hours ago
        Replying to @Fyodor32768

        I've said before it was a bit of a clumsy move from a perspective of political tactics, but the confidently argued notion that she committed some grievous racist affront to all Native people by doing it is complete bunk.

        2 replies . 0 retweets 10 likes
      5. Laura Tanenbaum‏ @LauraTanenbaum 23h23 hours ago
        Replying to @DavidKlion @Fyodor32768

        More than clumsy, it conceded a view of ethnicity based on blood that is dangerous and Trump's ground.

        1 reply . 0 retweets 13 likes
      6. Laura Tanenbaum‏ @LauraTanenbaum 23h23 hours ago
        Replying to @LauraTanenbaum @DavidKlion @Fyodor32768

        That said, totally agree about opportunistic use of critiques of Warren and appreciate this thread.

        2 replies . 0 retweets 4 likes
      7. David Klion‏Verified account @DavidKlion 23h23 hours ago
        Replying to @LauraTanenbaum @Fyodor32768

        Putting aside the political wisdom of the test and the execution of the rollout, my underlying position is that she has a right a) to tell her family story as she understands it, and b) to demonstrate that she hasn't been lying about it.

        1 reply . 0 retweets 5 likes
      8. David Klion‏Verified account @DavidKlion 23h23 hours ago
        Replying to @DavidKlion @LauraTanenbaum @Fyodor32768

        I also got annoyed because she has repeatedly, explicitly stated that she does not claim tribal membership and respects that distinction, and yet people kept getting mad at her for supposedly claiming tribal membership. The whole thing felt like a prefab smear to me.

        1 reply . 1 retweet 12 likes
      9. Matthew Kupfer‏Verified account @Matthew_Kupfer 23h23 hours ago
        Replying to @DavidKlion @LauraTanenbaum @Fyodor32768

        Bingo! Many people responding to Warren's statements on her ancestry ignored (perhaps intentionally) that she was not claiming tribal membership, and acted as if she was. It was the second huge glaring hole in the story.

        1 reply . 0 retweets 2 likes
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      2. Nic Mc CárthaiRivera‏ @McC_Nicolas 23h23 hours ago
        Replying to @DavidKlion

        I can guarantee you there is more than one Native person that is upset with Warren.

        2 replies . 0 retweets 14 likes
      3. David Klion‏Verified account @DavidKlion 23h23 hours ago
        Replying to @McC_Nicolas

        Sure, as I said, Native people aren't monolithic.

        0 replies . 0 retweets 5 likes
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      2. Laura Evans‏ @LauEEvans 22h22 hours ago
        Replying to @DavidKlion @profmusgrave

        That academic is Kim TallBear, the preeminent scholar on the topic. Employment at a Canadian university is irrelevant to evaluating her expertise. I recommend her prolific peer-reviewed scholarship. A couple are in an obscure outlet called Science.http://kimtallbear.com 

        1 reply . 3 retweets 11 likes
      3. David Klion‏Verified account @DavidKlion 22h22 hours ago
        Replying to @LauEEvans @profmusgrave

        All I meant to imply is that she's a single voice whose opinion on this was presented by many on the left as authoritatively speaking for Native peoples.

        3 replies . 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Laura Evans‏ @LauEEvans 22h22 hours ago
        Replying to @DavidKlion @profmusgrave

        Dr. TallBear has been discussing her research findings. Many have opinions. Few have spent a career learning about a topic. Please show Dr. TallBear the respect she’s due.

        1 reply . 1 retweet 9 likes
      5. Laura Evans‏ @LauEEvans 22h22 hours ago
        Replying to @LauEEvans @DavidKlion @profmusgrave

        As I see it, if one questions indigenous scholarship based on the limited number of scholars, one endorses tons of institutional racism in academia. Profs discourage students from studying the topic. Funders don’t support the work. Universities don’t hire in the area.

        0 replies . 1 retweet 8 likes
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      2. Michael Bourret‏ @MichaelBourret 21h21 hours ago
        Replying to @DavidKlion

        It wasn't just one Native voice. There's no monolithic response, but writing off Native objections to Warren's approach is really gross.

        1 reply . 0 retweets 10 likes
      3. David Klion‏Verified account @DavidKlion 21h21 hours ago
        Replying to @MichaelBourret

        I'm not and neither does the article. What the article does do is show that these voices were cast as representative of prevailing sentiment, that this was inaccurate, and that no one really did the work at the time to explore what prevailing sentiment might actually be.

        2 replies . 0 retweets 4 likes
      4. Michael Bourret‏ @MichaelBourret 21h21 hours ago
        Replying to @DavidKlion

        "leftists who listened to exactly one Native voice"--but there were MANY voices and you're reducing them to one. Look, media coverage of this sucks, no doubt, but there are plenty of grassroots activists on twitter who object and aren't showing up in media coverage, either

        0 replies . 1 retweet 3 likes
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      2. Michael Colborne‏ @ColborneMichael 24h24 hours ago
        Replying to @DavidKlion

        ...who's the academic in Alberta?

        1 reply . 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. David Klion‏Verified account @DavidKlion 24h24 hours ago
        Replying to @ColborneMichael

        http://kimtallbear.com/ 

        1 reply . 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Committee on Slays & Queens‏ @drivewest 20h20 hours ago
        Replying to @DavidKlion @ColborneMichael

        A Sisseton Wahpeton Oyate (a US tribe) professor who happens to be the leading academic on Native Americans and DNA, who is a widely respected expert, and is far from “exactly one Native voice” on this issue that you snidely waive away.

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