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Trivia-filled, Design Lead at Google, Psychologist, Speaker, Teacher, Author, Motorcyclist, Traveler, Laughs a lot, Opinions are all and always mine.

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     ⚜️ Dave Hogue  ⚜️‏ @DaveHogue Aug 24

     ⚜️ Dave Hogue  ⚜️ Retweeted Chris Hayes

    How many people actually use their smartphone as a phone and make calls?https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1032662306616791040 …

     ⚜️ Dave Hogue  ⚜️ added,

    Chris HayesVerified account @chrislhayes
    It remains amazing to me that in the year of our lord 2018, cell phones remain so stubbornly *terrible* at making phone calls.
    8:16 AM - 24 Aug 2018
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      1.  ⚜️ Dave Hogue  ⚜️‏ @DaveHogue Aug 24

        FYI, some data from the UK in April 2018 shows that ~50% of people make several calls per day, while ~14% make 1 call per week or less. https://www.statista.com/statistics/466240/mobile-phone-use-by-frequency-of-calling-in-the-uk/ …pic.twitter.com/x0oXLxlhDN

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      2. Morten Rand-Hendriksen‏Verified account @mor10 Aug 24
        Replying to @DaveHogue

        The "phone" app is a legacy feature kept in place because the phone companies need a way of tying their customers to a plan - ie the phone number.

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      3.  ⚜️ Dave Hogue  ⚜️‏ @DaveHogue Aug 24
        Replying to @mor10

        How did that tie a customer to a plan? It's device ID that gets tied to a carrier ("locked phones"), while the app is just a UI for the phone hardware.

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      4. Morten Rand-Hendriksen‏Verified account @mor10 Aug 24
        Replying to @DaveHogue

        Try buying a phone and a data plan without a phone number.

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      5.  ⚜️ Dave Hogue  ⚜️‏ @DaveHogue Aug 24
        Replying to @mor10

        How to mobile data plans for tablets and laptops work? I have a t-mobile 4G data hotspot - it has a "phone number", not because it's a phone, but because that's how the carrier identifies the device for billing and service. It has no phone app. How are these related?

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      6. Morten Rand-Hendriksen‏Verified account @mor10 Aug 24
        Replying to @DaveHogue

        The phone number gives the telco power through legislation and licensing. Without the number, they have no power over the consumer. It's super complicated and shifty and anchored in old rules

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      7.  ⚜️ Dave Hogue  ⚜️‏ @DaveHogue Aug 24
        Replying to @mor10

        I get that, but I don't understand how "phone as an app" is related. Using the device as a phone requires an interface - it's either part of the OS or an app on top of the OS. How does how we use the phone (app or not) having anything to do with legacy billing & service?

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      8. Morten Rand-Hendriksen‏Verified account @mor10 Aug 24
        Replying to @DaveHogue

        If the phone doesn't have a "phone" app which cannot be uninstalled, it stops being a phone and the phone company can't demand you have a phone number. The tablet story is a weird anomaly.

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      9.  ⚜️ Dave Hogue  ⚜️‏ @DaveHogue Aug 24
        Replying to @mor10

        I can buy a data-only SIM card, and it will work in nearly all phones. True, I cannot uninstall the phone app, but I can choose a 3rd party phone app.I also can't uninstall the Bluetooth and WiFi drivers - layers between users and hardware are necessary to not brick a device.

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      2. Scott Simpson‏ @scotty82 Aug 24
        Replying to @DaveHogue

        I wish one platform or the other would take the plunge and at least demote the Phone app to the same level as other apps - delete if unwanted, no full-screen takeovers, etc.

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      3.  ⚜️ Dave Hogue  ⚜️‏ @DaveHogue Aug 24
        Replying to @scotty82

        Do you mean that you want to use the phone as a phone while still using it for other things when you say "no full-screen takeover"? On Android, "Phone" IS an app, and it can be put into split-screen mode or set aside (background) during calls to do other things.

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      4. Scott Simpson‏ @scotty82 Aug 24
        Replying to @DaveHogue

        Ah, I was unclear, sorry. What I mean is that I’d like to disable the full-screen takeover and audio interruption when the phone rings, maybe replacing it with a banner or something. I haven’t used an Android phone in a while, but on iOS, this is really disruptive.

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      5.  ⚜️ Dave Hogue  ⚜️‏ @DaveHogue Aug 24
        Replying to @scotty82

        Ah, the incoming call experience. On my Pixel 2 with Android P and Google Fi for carrier service, incoming phone calls (while using another app) are displayed as a notification at the top of the screen - not a full-screen takeover.

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      6. Scott Simpson‏ @scotty82 Aug 24
        Replying to @DaveHogue

        That sounds much nicer! Hopefully Apple catches up soon!

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      7.  ⚜️ Dave Hogue  ⚜️‏ @DaveHogue Aug 24
        Replying to @scotty82

        Buy a Pixel phone. :)

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      2. Deborah Edwards-Onoro‏ @redcrew Aug 24
        Replying to @DaveHogue

        Me!

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      3.  ⚜️ Dave Hogue  ⚜️‏ @DaveHogue Aug 24
        Replying to @redcrew

        You're in the 50%! ;)

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      4. Deborah Edwards-Onoro‏ @redcrew Aug 24
        Replying to @DaveHogue

        I'm feeling special now!

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      5. Jim Voorhies‏ @jimvoorhies Aug 24
        Replying to @redcrew @DaveHogue

        You always were, Deborah. I do as well.

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      6. Deborah Edwards-Onoro‏ @redcrew Aug 24
        Replying to @jimvoorhies @DaveHogue

        Awww, that made me smile. Thank you, Jim.

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