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    1. Emily Crockett‏Verified account @emilycrockett 20 Nov 2017

      Emily Crockett Retweeted Cathy Young

      Context matters, and tbh “usually” is accurate in my experience. When a random dude compliments my looks, sometimes it’s in a nice way that doesn’t creep me out — but USUALLY it’s not. I USUALLY think twice about drink invites that don’t come from a trusted male friend.https://twitter.com/CathyYoung63/status/932663061017751553 …

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      Cathy YoungVerified account @CathyYoung63
      Over 1/3 of American young adults think it's "always/usually" sexual harassment if a man who not a woman's romantic partner compliments her looks. About 1 in 4 young women say it's always/usually SH if he asks her out for a drink. Doomed. https://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2017/11/daily-chart-14?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/ed/ …
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    2. David Atkins #11Justices‏Verified account @DavidOAtkins 20 Nov 2017
      Replying to @emilycrockett

      The challenge that not-hot guys have with this is that compliments and date requests come off as flattering from the attractive/charming, and creepy from the awkward/unattractive.

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    3. Emily Crockett‏Verified account @emilycrockett 20 Nov 2017
      Replying to @DavidOAtkins

      Back to this part tho—there is a MAJOR difference between “creepy-awkward” and “sweet-awkward,” even “pitiable-awkward.” Also between “flattering-charming” and “gross-smarmy-charming.” Women get this. Many men believe, wrongly, that’s it’s all about whether you’re “awkward.”

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    4. Emily Crockett‏Verified account @emilycrockett 20 Nov 2017
      Replying to @emilycrockett @DavidOAtkins

      And this is why we have red-pillers and why we can’t have nice things. IT IS ABOUT HOW YOU TREAT AND VALUE OTHERS. Usually this will come across, regardless of your level of general social skills.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      Dante Atkins‏Verified account @DanteAtkins 20 Nov 2017
      Replying to @emilycrockett @DavidOAtkins

      Yeah. It borders on incel stuff to say that the same behavior is acceptable for attractive men that isn’t for those of us who are more challenged in that regard.

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        2. David Atkins #11Justices‏Verified account @DavidOAtkins 20 Nov 2017
          Replying to @DanteAtkins @emilycrockett

          Is it? It goes for both sexes. As a general rule, pretty people can get away with a lot, which often leads to confusion about norms. Denying that seems silly. Incels just use it as an excuse for their shitty personalities and abusive behavior.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Emily Crockett‏Verified account @emilycrockett 20 Nov 2017
          Replying to @DavidOAtkins @DanteAtkins

          That is true generally, but it’s not true enough to be made as a blanket statement about harassment. It’s those contexts specifically that incels focus on

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Emily Crockett‏Verified account @emilycrockett 20 Nov 2017
          Replying to @emilycrockett @DavidOAtkins @DanteAtkins

          Thanks for this thread btw, I knew this kind of sentiment bugged me but hadn’t yet clarified for myself exactly why

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. David Atkins #11Justices‏Verified account @DavidOAtkins 20 Nov 2017
          Replying to @emilycrockett @DanteAtkins

          Yeah. Maybe it's a bit of insufferable Holden Caulfieldism in me, but whenever I hear some dude tell a barista "i like your hair" i want to shout "you f'ing phony. She's cute, you know it and she does too, you don't give a damn about her hair, and this is all a social convention"

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        6. Emily Crockett‏Verified account @emilycrockett 20 Nov 2017
          Replying to @DavidOAtkins @DanteAtkins

          😂😂😂

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        7. Emily Crockett‏Verified account @emilycrockett 20 Nov 2017
          Replying to @emilycrockett @DavidOAtkins @DanteAtkins

          But also I think the slightly better response there is “ugh that dude is being lowkey creepy, why do men do this when they know they’re not fooling anyone”

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        8. David Atkins #11Justices‏Verified account @DavidOAtkins 20 Nov 2017
          Replying to @emilycrockett @DanteAtkins

          Yeah but here's where we disagree maybe: "i like your hair" comes off as a charming or low-key creepy depending entirely on context, tone, and who is saying it to whom. There are so many unwritten rules to navigate, and not everyone has the roadmap.

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        9. Emily Crockett‏Verified account @emilycrockett 20 Nov 2017
          Replying to @DavidOAtkins @DanteAtkins

          I do hear that. I still think that while this can be a thing, it’s not as big a thing in practice as many assume. Again, we can tell the difference between dense, even irritating, and predatory.

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