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    1.  🤷🏻‍♀️‏ @DanielleFong 15 Sep 2021
      Replying to @EvanWil41824796 @Pravduh15 @DavidBCollum

      but don’t you know what absolute risk reduction is? it’s always lower unless the whole population is exposed during the current period of the study

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    2. Dave Collum‏ @DavidBCollum 15 Sep 2021
      Replying to @DanielleFong @EvanWil41824796 @Pravduh15

      If the comparison goes back to January it is cooked. Hardly anybody was vaccinated in the winter 20-21 spike, so they are juking the unvaccinated number by including them.

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    3. Pravduh‏ @Pravduh15 15 Sep 2021
      Replying to @DavidBCollum @DanielleFong @EvanWil41824796

      Yup. Which changes the percentage of vaccinated people dying of COVID from 10-15%, to closer to 30-40% conservatively. It should be tough to hide this data for much longer.

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    4.  🤷🏻‍♀️‏ @DanielleFong 15 Sep 2021
      Replying to @Pravduh15 @DavidBCollum @EvanWil41824796

      sorry, newb question, how do you get that %?

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    5. Pravduh‏ @Pravduh15 15 Sep 2021
      Replying to @DanielleFong @DavidBCollum @EvanWil41824796

      If you separate 2 groups of the same people then they should have things happen the same. If the groups are large enough. So 2 halves of the same group should get covid at the same rate or die from COVID at the same rate. So baseline of 2 equal groups is 50:50.

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    6. Pravduh‏ @Pravduh15 15 Sep 2021
      Replying to @Pravduh15 @DanielleFong and

      If you vaccinate one group and don't vaccinate the other group, the base would be no effect, which would be 50:50. Unaltered. If 40% of severe COVID cases are vaccinated, then that is a 10% change from the nothing group. 50:50.

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    7.  🤷🏻‍♀️‏ @DanielleFong 15 Sep 2021
      Replying to @Pravduh15 @DavidBCollum @EvanWil41824796

      don’t see how you get these numbers, precisely, but also % of people who have severe covid who are vaxxed is not the operative number probably. if everyone is vaxxed the number will still be 100%. relative risk reduction still the relevant metric imho

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    8. Pravduh‏ @Pravduh15 15 Sep 2021
      Replying to @DanielleFong @DavidBCollum @EvanWil41824796

      In Texas, the percentage of fully vaxxed was super close to 50% and according to the chart at the beginning of the thread or somewhere in the middle, looks like vax covid deaths are between 30-40%, so a 10-20% improvement from nothing.

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    9.  🤷🏻‍♀️‏ @DanielleFong 15 Sep 2021
      Replying to @Pravduh15 @DavidBCollum @EvanWil41824796

      there’s a lot of ways for bias to make this go wrong when measured that way, eg older people more likely to be vaxxed first. that why you do randomized controlled trials…

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    10. Pravduh‏ @Pravduh15 15 Sep 2021
      Replying to @DanielleFong @DavidBCollum @EvanWil41824796

      Clearly, this is one way the data could be skewed, but it seems like a lesser skew than assuming 100% of the other party had severe COVID and that is the level of protection. Or using 2 years of un💉 Covid deaths vs 2 mo of 💉COVID deaths.

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       🤷🏻‍♀️‏ @DanielleFong 15 Sep 2021
      Replying to @Pravduh15 @DavidBCollum @EvanWil41824796

      yeah try not to get it wrong in any direction…

      4:20 PM - 15 Sep 2021
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        2. Pravduh‏ @Pravduh15 15 Sep 2021
          Replying to @DanielleFong @DavidBCollum @EvanWil41824796

          Without the data, we are flying blind and being herded by big pharma with blinders on. I'm sure there is efficacy, but let's hear the truth about it and not some dumb blame the anti-vaxxers for the vaccine not protecting the vaccinated.

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        3. Pravduh‏ @Pravduh15 15 Sep 2021
          Replying to @Pravduh15 @DanielleFong and

          Every study that I've seen has shown efficacy, but seeing the number obfuscation and data hiding has made me very suspicious.

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