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    1. The Competent Man‏ @EvanWil41824796 15 Sep 2021
      Replying to @Pravduh15 @DavidBCollum

      Pre covid, NO ONE ever talked about 'break through infections' for a 'vaccine'. It either worked or not. Polio less than 500 cases WORLDWIDE last year, because that vaccine works; covid, not so well, but we call it a 'vaccine' and pretend it works like one so people feel better.

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    2. Pravduh‏ @Pravduh15 15 Sep 2021
      Replying to @EvanWil41824796 @DavidBCollum

      Sure, because no one killed anyone when the flu vaccine didn't really work, so it wasn't a big deal. (Some efficacy with the flu vaccine, but if it you still got/ spread the flu, who cares only 34K annual flu deaths.)

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    3. Pravduh‏ @Pravduh15 15 Sep 2021
      Replying to @Pravduh15 @EvanWil41824796 @DavidBCollum

      @DanielleFong it makes more sense, now, huh?

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    4.  🤷🏻‍♀️‏ @DanielleFong 15 Sep 2021
      Replying to @Pravduh15 @EvanWil41824796 @DavidBCollum

      afaict this is still quite an effective vaccine, but the virus is evolving, what you gonna do?

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    5. The Competent Man‏ @EvanWil41824796 15 Sep 2021
      Replying to @DanielleFong @Pravduh15 @DavidBCollum

      The reported 95% efficiency is Relative Risk Reduction. Absolute Risk Reduction is less than a percent. (page 3 table 1, upper left n values of 162 and 8 in a set of about 18K people) https://www.thelancet.com/cms/10.1016/S2666-5247(21)00069-0/attachment/bb4bb1cf-8d64-453f-a2b7-e1b95194c109/mmc1.pdf …

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    6.  🤷🏻‍♀️‏ @DanielleFong 15 Sep 2021
      Replying to @EvanWil41824796 @Pravduh15 @DavidBCollum

      🤷🏻‍♀️https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSL2N2NK1XA …

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    7. The Competent Man‏ @EvanWil41824796 15 Sep 2021
      Replying to @DanielleFong @Pravduh15 @DavidBCollum

      Think of it this way; which number sells more covid shots and makes people feel better; RRR at 95% or ARR at 0.84%? The average person can hardly read a newspaper let alone be discerning enough to care about RRR vs ARR.

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    8.  🤷🏻‍♀️‏ @DanielleFong 15 Sep 2021
      Replying to @EvanWil41824796 @Pravduh15 @DavidBCollum

      but don’t you know what absolute risk reduction is? it’s always lower unless the whole population is exposed during the current period of the study

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    9. Dave Collum‏ @DavidBCollum 15 Sep 2021
      Replying to @DanielleFong @EvanWil41824796 @Pravduh15

      If the comparison goes back to January it is cooked. Hardly anybody was vaccinated in the winter 20-21 spike, so they are juking the unvaccinated number by including them.

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    10. Pravduh‏ @Pravduh15 15 Sep 2021
      Replying to @DavidBCollum @DanielleFong @EvanWil41824796

      Yup. Which changes the percentage of vaccinated people dying of COVID from 10-15%, to closer to 30-40% conservatively. It should be tough to hide this data for much longer.

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       🤷🏻‍♀️‏ @DanielleFong 15 Sep 2021
      Replying to @Pravduh15 @DavidBCollum @EvanWil41824796

      sorry, newb question, how do you get that %?

      3:45 PM - 15 Sep 2021
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        2. Pravduh‏ @Pravduh15 15 Sep 2021
          Replying to @DanielleFong @DavidBCollum @EvanWil41824796

          If you separate 2 groups of the same people then they should have things happen the same. If the groups are large enough. So 2 halves of the same group should get covid at the same rate or die from COVID at the same rate. So baseline of 2 equal groups is 50:50.

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        3. Pravduh‏ @Pravduh15 15 Sep 2021
          Replying to @Pravduh15 @DanielleFong and

          If you vaccinate one group and don't vaccinate the other group, the base would be no effect, which would be 50:50. Unaltered. If 40% of severe COVID cases are vaccinated, then that is a 10% change from the nothing group. 50:50.

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