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    1. Venkatesh Rao (田 )‏ @vgr 17 Aug 2021
      Replying to @kneelingbus

      I think the appeal to Arendt’s notion of appearance doesn’t work. I don’t recall the book arguing literally about attire. It was “appearing” in a philosophical sense of being seen as a fully human free actor. So absent that pillar you’re left with basically NY vs SF war of norms.

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    2. Venkatesh Rao (田 )‏ @vgr 17 Aug 2021
      Replying to @vgr @kneelingbus

      I think I get what you’re going for, but fashion, even in the sense of general attire, feels to be like a perverse vehicle for the argument because it’s naturally divergent and subcultural. It’s not like say respecting anti-litter norms or other unproblematic commons.

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    3. Venkatesh Rao (田 )‏ @vgr 17 Aug 2021
      Replying to @vgr @kneelingbus

      Like advertising polluting information commons… that works. Though it implicates NY old media as much as Google AdWords or Facebook ads. I can’t think of a true commons Tech uniquely disrespects in an abuse of power. Pot-kettle ones mostly.

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    4. Drew Austin‏ @kneelingbus 17 Aug 2021
      Replying to @vgr

      the divergent/subcultural nature of it is part of what makes it fascinating to me though - like littering is a more binary problem, whereas clothing seems to contain a lot of information about social conditions, and is a communication medium at that (or can be)

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    5. Drew Austin‏ @kneelingbus 17 Aug 2021
      Replying to @kneelingbus @vgr

      i know Arendt was talking literally about clothes but i think visually seeing is tied to philosophically seeing. and more broadly it does seem that technology has altered (reduced) the broad significance of clothing since 20th century, and our use of public space is part of that

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    6. Venkatesh Rao (田 )‏ @vgr 17 Aug 2021
      Replying to @kneelingbus

      (I assume you mean wasn’t) I do agree with you in a very weak form, I really dislike rich people wearing obvious sleepwear on planes or out doing chores. That’s making a claim on commons others can’t opt out of as an extension of your bedroom and a sort of privilege signal.

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    7. Venkatesh Rao (田 )‏ @vgr 17 Aug 2021
      Replying to @vgr @kneelingbus

      Re divergence though… it sorta begs the question. Commons are… common! To impose a subcultural standard on a commons is to claim it for oneself/expropriate it.

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    8. Venkatesh Rao (田 )‏ @vgr 17 Aug 2021
      Replying to @vgr @kneelingbus

      But okay I’ll stop being a griefer here

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    9.  🤷🏻‍♀️‏ @DanielleFong 17 Aug 2021
      Replying to @vgr @kneelingbus

      have you not experienced the pure joy of walking in the middle of the street in your pajamas?

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    10. dorian‏ @doriantaylor 17 Aug 2021
      Replying to @DanielleFong @vgr @kneelingbus

      what if your pajamas are ∅

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       🤷🏻‍♀️‏ @DanielleFong 17 Aug 2021
      Replying to @doriantaylor @vgr @kneelingbus

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        1. dorian‏ @doriantaylor 17 Aug 2021
          Replying to @DanielleFong @vgr @kneelingbus

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