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    1. the post man‏ @deepfates 11 Jun 2021

      the post man Retweeted Vivid Void

      this is a good question https://twitter.com/VividVoid_/status/1403398398258995205?s=20 … we didn't have enough water power for this. it took over a mile of pipe run downhill to get enough pressure for the Pelton wheel and we still couldn't run power tools oh, and the water started to dry up in 2013 😅😬😅😬😅😬😅

      the post man added,

      Vivid Void @VividVoid_
      Replying to @deepfates
      Most plans I've seen require capital (or fossil fuel wealth etc) to get something sustainable started, then hope to pay off that debt after x amount of years. Would a hydro powered saw mill have changed things for your commune, for instance?
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    2. the post man‏ @deepfates 11 Jun 2021

      some guys did get an Alaskan mill and start making boards. (that's basically a frame that you put on the log to make your chainsaw go in right angles). two or three of them would run it all day and make like... ten boards? fifteen? idk cuz they were my enemies and i didn't help

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    3. the post man‏ @deepfates 11 Jun 2021

      work is HARD WORK. doing things yourself, the long way, is a pain in the ass. i think it is GOOD to do it, and i would like it if there were a program you could go instead of college where you just go do hard work and live a low-energy life so you appreciate the GOD DAMN CITY

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    4. the post man‏ @deepfates 11 Jun 2021

      i live in the city now because it's like a ten minute walk to the food store where somebody has already made food supplies that i can literally buy with money i worked for at something i'm good at and enjoy. people do cities for a reason. LARPers know this but don't admit

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    5. the post man‏ @deepfates 11 Jun 2021

      but! 7) modern agriculture is pretty fucked up, as are cities. we should make them all ecological. and we should rewild the suburbs because nothing hurts like the suburbs, once you've been in the wilderness a while

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    6. the post man‏ @deepfates 11 Jun 2021

      laptop battery critically low

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    7. the post man‏ @deepfates 11 Jun 2021

      the post man Retweeted the post man

      correcting this, I was misremembering "5 to 10 acres per family". which is maybe four people? I don't know. I made all these calculations in like 2015, based on pessimistic view where I was trying to find reasons to leave. That's my biashttps://twitter.com/deepfates/status/1403393813335400449?s=19 …

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      it takes roughly 10 acres of farmland to support a single person for a year, including grains and animals and everything. maybe you can get that down a little with permaculture technique and wildcrafting. we had one and a half acres of meadow
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    8.  🤷🏻‍♀️‏ @DanielleFong 11 Jun 2021
      Replying to @deepfates

      i’ve heard a figure as low as 1 acre per person with a draft animal (horse?) and 1/2 acre for a hardscrabble existence without horses, on an island off scotland with population stats

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    9. Ely Rabani‏ @radsci 11 Jun 2021
      Replying to @DanielleFong @deepfates

      Ely Rabani Retweeted Ely Rabani

      Areal bioproductivity (primary producers) is the real limit. In a decade, switching to efficient phytoplankton cultivation (>40g dry weight/d.m^2) & cellularAg would let us rewild so much agricultural land… 10Gt biomass dw/yr could likely more than feed everyone; 1/https://twitter.com/radsci/status/1365172452725198849 …

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      Ely Rabani @radsci
      Ocean-based Self-Replicating Systems cultivating microalgae & processing biomass to useful materials are the game-changer that will enable recapture & utilization of all anthropogenic CO2 emissions by midcentury. pic.twitter.com/k1EUiXL77G
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    10. Ely Rabani‏ @radsci 11 Jun 2021
      Replying to @radsci @DanielleFong @deepfates

      That will produce 100Gt per year using <2% ocean area.

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       🤷🏻‍♀️‏ @DanielleFong 11 Jun 2021
      Replying to @radsci @deepfates

      in theory! but yeah it could be great. growth is nutrient limited but could be mechanically augmented.

      1:54 PM - 11 Jun 2021
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        2. Ely Rabani‏ @radsci 11 Jun 2021
          Replying to @DanielleFong @deepfates

          At those scales nutrient recycling will need to be maximized (esp P & Fe; nitrogen fixers can be cultivated so N isn’t an issue). That can likely be high enough that only exported nutrients need to be replaced. Capturing nutrients discharged into the ocean via rivers 1/

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        3. Ely Rabani‏ @radsci 11 Jun 2021
          Replying to @radsci @DanielleFong @deepfates

          would be an additional ecological service till changes in terrestrial agriculture reduce that problem. 2/2

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        1. Ely Rabani‏ @radsci 11 Jun 2021
          Replying to @DanielleFong @deepfates

          Though the other point I’ll make is that the required R&D is mainly process/system integration. It could be implemented using mainly 1970s or older technology, though of course it will be better optimized using more advanced/recent tech.

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