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    1. Stewart Alsop III - Host of Crazy Wisdom Podcast‏ @StewartalsopIII 23 Apr 2021
      Replying to @DanielleFong

      In the entire history of movement we have never once been able to successfully stop the mass of humanity from movement. It is in our nature. I think you are trying to engineer non-engineerable phenomena and that it will not work out and that we should focus on other pressing stuf

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    2.  🤷🏻‍♀️‏ @DanielleFong 23 Apr 2021
      Replying to @StewartalsopIII

      look, maybe you can see it this way -- it has succeeded and still worth it to the populations to nova scotia and australia and new zealand and wherever to hold strong and maintain contact tracing and testing and travel restrictions in case it mutates and gets far worse.

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    3. Stewart Alsop III - Host of Crazy Wisdom Podcast‏ @StewartalsopIII 23 Apr 2021
      Replying to @DanielleFong

      It has not succeeded in the vast majority of places that have tried. It does not make sense to continue the charade in those places.

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    4.  🤷🏻‍♀️‏ @DanielleFong 23 Apr 2021
      Replying to @StewartalsopIII

      have they really tried? i agree that once contact tracing is totally overwhelmed there’s no putting the genie back in the bottle but sensible policies like indoor public mask use and testing / quarantine or vaccination with travel has a clear influence on the spread of variants

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    5.  🤷🏻‍♀️‏ @DanielleFong 23 Apr 2021
      Replying to @DanielleFong @StewartalsopIII

      it’s not a binary fail, things can get worse and probably will by default

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    6. Stewart Alsop III - Host of Crazy Wisdom Podcast‏ @StewartalsopIII 23 Apr 2021
      Replying to @DanielleFong

      It is a binary fail. This virus is endemic. We have other problems like cancer screenings, tuberculosis and 150 million people who were just shoved right back into extreme poverty due to lockdowns. Real death will come from that and it will eclipse covid deaths.

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    7.  🤷🏻‍♀️‏ @DanielleFong 23 Apr 2021
      Replying to @StewartalsopIII

      i agree that lcokdowns can't be maintained forever, which is why the effectiveness of other interventions from vaccines to masks has to make up for it. i simply don't agree that letting the virus totally rip with be an outcome 'just as bad', it could be unboundedly worse

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    8. Stewart Alsop III - Host of Crazy Wisdom Podcast‏ @StewartalsopIII 23 Apr 2021
      Replying to @DanielleFong

      If you look at florida, Sweden, tennessee and south Dakota we see no effect from interventions with a sample size that is in the millions.

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    9.  🤷🏻‍♀️‏ @DanielleFong 23 Apr 2021
      Replying to @StewartalsopIII

      with my view on this from data from a lot of different countries including Sweden just doesn't support that, tho i'm sure there are cases where the effectiveness is less clear, swamped by something else (eg. weather? particular factors eg. ventilation, a/c, travel, variants?)

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    10. Stewart Alsop III - Host of Crazy Wisdom Podcast‏ @StewartalsopIII 23 Apr 2021
      Replying to @DanielleFong

      Please cite the data that shows wildly different per capita hospitalization and mortality rates in those regions from those that lockdowned, which is your implicit premise.

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       🤷🏻‍♀️‏ @DanielleFong 23 Apr 2021
      Replying to @StewartalsopIII

      as far as sweden, idk, is this a success story? more cases than neighbors, but not, you know, totally catastrophic, not lockdown, but there are restrictions and they’ve engaged contact tracing the entire time. i don’t think telling sweden to end it’s restrictions is correct 🤷🏻‍♀️pic.twitter.com/12mc0lvetR

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        1.  🤷🏻‍♀️‏ @DanielleFong 23 Apr 2021
          Replying to @DanielleFong @StewartalsopIII

          but, full ‘lockdown’is really expensive for people and i think if governments ask it of their citizens it’s impingent on them to provide social support. if they will not can you really ask it? becomes harder and harder to justify.

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