the amount of just ... straight up disinformation that uninformed humans are generating about bitcoin is really something todayhttps://twitter.com/DanielleFong/status/1384206262045351952 …
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Replying to @niftynei
i would hope you would give me a little more time before dunking on me. anyway this 'transaction rate / usage is decoupled from energy use, which is just due to mining' doesn't make sense to me, and try as i might being called an idiot on here doesn't make it make any more sense
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Replying to @DanielleFong
you're not alone in your misunderstanding! admitting it's not something you understand is admirable. but as it is your tweets are misinformed; i'm sorry you feel like you're being dunked on for getting called on it.
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Replying to @niftynei
forgive me, i mean to say that i'm still quite dubious as to the claim! i think it's being dunked on to quote tweet like that when the claim is at least debatable.
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Replying to @DanielleFong
i understand that you don't understand!! but uh, it's not debatable. and yes. transactions fees and usage are completely decoupled from the scale of energy usage of the network.
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Replying to @niftynei
look, i understand that there is a fine line of argument that says that there is a *decoupling* between energy use and usage, but it does not mean that they totally decoupled! obviously, coupling through price, and indirectly through demand for onchain ledger transactions, fees
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Replying to @DanielleFong
it's not an argument. it's how it works. i've already pointed out elsewhere that the coin price does heavily influence the energy usage. you're making an assumption that increased usage increases the price. that's specious.
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Replying to @niftynei @DanielleFong
given what you know now, would you agree that your conclusion about scaling *usage* here is misleading? "but seriously, technologists, the industry has a problem with energy usage *even at this scale*. if it 'actually' scaled to replace everything it would be catastrophic."
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- "but seriously, technologists, the industry has a problem with energy usage *even at this scale*. a moral call that i think is correct, but is debatable - "if it 'actually' scaled to replace everything it would be catastrophic." you're right, the phrasing is too strong,
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Replying to @DanielleFong @niftynei
'if it actually scaled' is misleading in that scaling directly won't work at all! i do realise (and to be clear I knew this...) that level 2 techs allow you to avoid writing transactions to the shared Bitcoin ledger i don't agree that usage and energy usage are fully decoupled!
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