I think it's instructive that, based on COVID deaths, the best state is Hawaii, an island state with strict border control and massive penalties for disregarding restrictions. And their death rate would still put us at over 100K dead nationwide
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I am, to this day, uncertain where "blame" lies for the death toll in this crisis Very few of the people who call COVID a massive policy failure have any real concrete vision for how we could have stopped this It always ends up boiling down to "We should be New Zealand"
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We are obviously not New Zealand, so what's the next step in this? I honestly don't hear any ideas that can be measured against reality as plausible solutions
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Replying to @politicalmath
it’s arguable the numbers could have been exponentially better had there been more rapid response in testing and mask wearing as well as a much wider travel ban early until testing could be ramped up. because of the very rapid growth in cases without a response small changes impt
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The failure of the CDC with the initial test was a disaster - it might have been possible to contain the spread early on. Masking was never in the cards - Fauci specifically said *not* to mask in the period of time where it might've helped, and there'd have been zero compliance
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With the virus arriving in NYC in January, and in community spread in February, the die was cast before we even knew it was here. WIth full benefit of hindsight, closing *all* of our borders Jan 1st 20 would have changed the trajectory - but its arrival and spread was inevitable
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Replying to @squiddy61 @politicalmath
a reasonable timeframe for a fast acting american government would have been to act sometime around january 28th. like you say it could have altered the trajectory but there’s no way to have prevented it from arriving entirely. best case contact tracing doesn’t get overwhelmed
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I agree But looking at the data from Jan 28th, it's hard to view a scenario that would actually do a hard-close of the borders The evidence wasn't there & the political backlash would have been severe.
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back then i went by the following logic; some cases with low or no fever, or asymptomatic spread (anecdotal reports) widespread in china, massive shutdowns. r0 over 2, exp growth, have to give contact tracing a chance to catch up well informed/ strong leader could have done it
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I honestly don't believe this is the case The data out of China was really sparse in Jan 2020. We had only a few cases here. It looked like SARS (which wasn't that big of a deal in the US... certainly not worth locking down the border)
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i had early indications and reacted really quickly, but it definitely didn’t look like sars-1 to me, @xuezhao was reporting on this Jan 23rd 2020 and after that i read the who reports every day.
maybe it’s impossible to imagine a govt acting faster than me but they have the cia!
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