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    1. Venkatesh Rao (田 )‏ @vgr 24 Jan 2021

      Scenario Z: Covid is never brought under control, mutates too much every season to be managed like the flu, and goes endemic with higher base fatality rate and is too costly to chase with vaccines. Joins the top-3 ranks of steady modern killers alongside heart disease and cancer.

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    2. Venkatesh Rao (田 )‏ @vgr 24 Jan 2021

      This would be truly unprecedented. Infectious disease hasn’t dominated human affairs for decades. It differs from longevity driven modernity diseases in being more random and less governable.

      3 replies 12 retweets 159 likes
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    3. Venkatesh Rao (田 )‏ @vgr 24 Jan 2021

      Maybe, like fossil fuels, freedom from infectious disease was a temporary win. Maybe we’re at the beginning of a secular depopulation environmental force: infectious diseases 2.0.

      4 replies 17 retweets 184 likes
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    4. Venkatesh Rao (田 )‏ @vgr 24 Jan 2021

      If so, cities are done, both first-world aging population and third world overpopulation are solved in macabre ways, labor gets really pricey, healthcare gets radically reimagined around decentralized palliation etc. The worst case is easier to analyze than intermediate.

      4 replies 10 retweets 146 likes
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    5. Venkatesh Rao (田 )‏ @vgr 24 Jan 2021

      This isn’t primarily a medical or biological factors future. Even if we figure out a steady state treatment and management and vaccination regime, the economic and state capacity to run the playbook may not exist within current governance models.

      2 replies 11 retweets 112 likes
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    6. Venkatesh Rao (田 )‏ @vgr 24 Jan 2021

      For like 70 years our world’s political-economic structure has assumed state+market capacity to manage disease. Countries were admitted to “developed” status green zone primarily on the strength of demonstrating that capacity.

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    7. Venkatesh Rao (田 )‏ @vgr 24 Jan 2021

      We’re now in the bizarre condition of the world’s supposedly most developed nation (still true in a dozen important ways) having failed the hardest at this basic state competence test. And for cultural reasons, not technological.

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    8. Venkatesh Rao (田 )‏ @vgr 24 Jan 2021

      Cultural as in: broken public+private basic healthcare system, abandonment of the most vulnerable, and a third of the country joining a Trumpist death cult where patriotic courage is defined as giving others disease. Having the best univs and hospitals can’t fight that.

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    9. Venkatesh Rao (田 )‏ @vgr 24 Jan 2021

      Grim thing is: flu watchers expect ~5 dangerous flu pandemics in the next century. This one’s kinda a bonus. Then there’s antibiotic resistance and stuff. A whole empire of other diseases held at bay at gradually increasing cost.

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       🤷🏻‍♀️‏ @DanielleFong 24 Jan 2021
      Replying to @vgr

      the pressure from china as an alternative system would be significant, though in many outcomes they’re overwhelmed too. overall the situation seems more dynamic than our typical institutional response times. i think new institutions could shake out that can make faster decisions.

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        1. Venkatesh Rao (田 )‏ @vgr 24 Jan 2021
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          I don’t think China is an alternative system. They’re burning through political governance capacity at an unsustainable rate. And they’re not an island.

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