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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Jan 2021
      Replying to @halvorz @Merz

      Again, I cannot resolve the debate within that field (except to keep calling for data collection) but I disagree a bit with Alex. The people with deep/appropriate expertise calling for delaying the booster aren't that few. That said, very thoughtful/leading people also disagree.

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    5. Alex Merz‏ @Merz 2 Jan 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @halvorz

      There's a very significant sampling bias here.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Jan 2021
      Replying to @Merz @halvorz

      Well, if we had started a placebo/booster in November when the signal emerged, we'd be halfway to a better answer. I realize it's not easy, but given the stakes the best answers are speed up production (make the trade-off moot) and collect data (make the trade-off informed).

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    7. Alex Merz‏ @Merz 2 Jan 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @halvorz

      I don't think anyone thought that the mRNA vaccines would show the kind of protection that they have so far shown. The concern was always that the vaccines would show more marginal effectiveness and trial design was driven by concerns that they'd be underpowered.

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    8. Alex Merz‏ @Merz 2 Jan 2021
      Replying to @Merz @zeynep @halvorz

      And there's also the issue that participants were consented for the trials-as-conducted. A change in design as you suggest would have required that everyone be re-consented.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Jan 2021
      Replying to @Merz @halvorz

      Yeah, I realize we were surprised with mRNA-vax efficacy. I totally remember the April-June headlines and predictions. I realize why we did the trials the way we did. It's just that given the terrible price of the shortages, we should have adapted the trials as fast as possible.

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    10. Alex Merz‏ @Merz 2 Jan 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @halvorz

      The doses are being manufactured considerably faster than they're being adminstered.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
       🤷🏻‍♀️‏ @DanielleFong 2 Jan 2021
      Replying to @Merz @zeynep @halvorz

      this is an important point, imho, it’s a dubious factor of two to chase considering the main direction for improvement, solving the deployment problem is so straightforward...

      12:22 PM - 2 Jan 2021
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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Jan 2021
          Replying to @DanielleFong @Merz @halvorz

          Yeah, no kidding. We're managing to screw the initial deployment so badly that we're not even getting to discuss thinks countries with semi-functioning health-care systems are wondering about, like booster timing.

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        3.  🤷🏻‍♀️‏ @DanielleFong 2 Jan 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @Merz @halvorz

          given the incredible amount of financial stimulus, it’s astonishing to me there’s such anemic federal support for deployment. “it’s up to the states” is just such weak sauce

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