you have to provide support in general, there should have been more support, and there still can be. but you bring up a false dichotomy because lockdowns are only necessary when things get out of hand. if masks and other efforts are followed, disease control is possible.
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Replying to @DanielleFong
I would counter that none of it is necessary and that there is no proof that masks or social distancing do a damn thing - if they did, NY/NJ/CA wouldn't be having so many problems. The problem with 'support' is that it's somebody's tax dollars...
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Replying to @fakegingerbitch
that’s completely untrue. masks work; which is a frankly reasonable prior position to take, and now there’s really ample evidence. i don’t know where to begin. and people should get support proportionate to need and certainly in fairness trillions were printed to support corps.
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Replying to @DanielleFong
Half the country disagrees with you, and there's no proof that they do work - again, if they did, we wouldn't be seeing skyrocketing case numbers in parts of the world that have gone overboard with these things. The corporate welfare is disgusting, yes.
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the fact that ND / SD lead the world per capita despite the difference in population density doesn’t do anything for you? it’s not the only factor. the data by state shows a clear trend https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/21546014/mask-mandates-coronavirus-covid-19 …pic.twitter.com/dMmC7AWeOr
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Replying to @DanielleFong
Fake news - ND requires masks. Compare reported cases from SD with cases that were missed in NY.
Looking at seasonality explains more with this than anything else.
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🤷🏻♀️ Retweeted Nicholas A. Christakis
ND only issued a mask mandate 3 weeks ago. how do you make the estimate of missed cases and factor out the population density, transport use, etc. NY / NJ / CA do confound analysis. here’s a study from germanyhttps://twitter.com/NAChristakis/status/1334839410026799105 …
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Nicholas A. ChristakisVerified account @NAChristakisFace masks reduce COVID-19 cases in Germany https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2020/12/02/2015954117 … In time series analysis, 20 days after becoming mandatory, masks reduced number of new infections by about 45%. Compared to other non-pharmaceutical interventions (NPI), masks are easy and cheap. |@PNASNewsShow this thread2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @DanielleFong
So, back to what started this from the get go... DeSantis and I want gold standard evidence - that means randomized controlled trials. Adding in the latitude effect would likely invalidate the study you linked - science based medicine requires RCTs, not case control studies.
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Replying to @fakegingerbitch
i honestly think that’s insane. preponderance of evidence, plus direct mechanical evidence on filtration, on a respiratory disease? you can’t do a blind trial, but in kansas counties that failed to enforce the mandate had significantly increased cases, those that did, decreased
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wow found the graph. there’s still a decrease but obviously they shouldn’t do this. that’s not even just out of scale, the intercept isn’t at 0pic.twitter.com/azAYtEJiJr
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still though, i don’t understand how someone can understand the basic ideal of a mesh filter droplets and aerosols, or see the dispersion of aerosols in experiments, or see the national data, and think that masks don’t work we have a mask mandate in ns and we’ve suppressed twice
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Replying to @DanielleFong
1) No proof of asymptomatic spread - if someone is coughing, obviously shouldn't be out and about. Masking healthy people is nuts. 2) Seen the vape video where it comes out the sides of the mask? Vapor then spreads everywhere. Same with Corona. RCT says masks are useless.
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