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    1. Venkatesh Rao (田 )‏ @vgr 25 Aug 2020

      These things evolved in Sun and DEC Alpha workstations and later model SG machines through the 90s until they kinda died out in the early 2000s. They were replaced by basic PCs with commodity hardware and OSes. They simply didn't add enough differentiated "producer UX" value.

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    2. Venkatesh Rao (田 )‏ @vgr 25 Aug 2020

      When I got my first laptop in 2000 (a Dell Inspiron) I switched from Unix to Windows for all my research work and never looked back. Unlike programmers, I only really needed Matlab and LaTeX, both of which ran fine on Windows, and the processing power was more than enough for me

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    3. Venkatesh Rao (田 )‏ @vgr 25 Aug 2020

      It's a sad story... that the computer as a producer device basically died with the Sun workstation, but it kinda deserved to, since it didn't evolve at all, except for computer scientists themselves. If you were any other kind of scientist or engineer, you were a consumer

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    4. Venkatesh Rao (田 )‏ @vgr 25 Aug 2020

      Back to today. The only people I know of who do the kind of things I think should be done are the extreme hackers building their own from-scratch home-automation hardware to Jarvis-up their workspaces. @theartlav has one... but note he's a CS PhD :D

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    5. Venkatesh Rao (田 )‏ @vgr 25 Aug 2020

      If you're say, an astronomer or a biologist, or a virologist researching Covid19 vaccines, you're out of luck. Your computer is basically a consumption tool designed for binge-watching videos and playing games. Just with some of your software loaded on.

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    6. Venkatesh Rao (田 )‏ @vgr 25 Aug 2020

      Imagine if say automobiles evolved that. ONLY automotive engineers would have anything other than a basic family sedan. If you were a construction worker or farmer, you couldn't get a pickup truck designed with your needs in mind.

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    7. Venkatesh Rao (田 )‏ @vgr 25 Aug 2020

      You'd have to either learn as much about cars as a Ford engineer, and then you could only get a forklift truck designed for working within automobile factories. Farmers having to choose between a Toyota Prius or a forklift truck. No F150s or cybertrucks around.

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    8. Venkatesh Rao (田 )‏ @vgr 25 Aug 2020

      Venkatesh Rao (田 ) Retweeted Kevin McGillivray

      Some of this thread assumes a false digital dualist paradigm of a space of digital workflows and a space of physical workflows. Obviously, this can be broken/pushed. I do like some aspects of Bret Victor's thinking here (the dynamicland stuff)https://twitter.com/kev_mcg/status/1298326093682946048 …

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      Kevin McGillivray @kev_mcg
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      Maybe the best computer "workshop" is the place where your home workshop itself is a computer—the pattern encompasses both the software-as-place metaphor and the space itself where the software is used. Screens are the constraint. https://twitter.com/kev_mcg/status/1298324200902610944?s=20 …
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    9. Venkatesh Rao (田 )‏ @vgr 25 Aug 2020

      This is a paradigm of the workspace as a single entity, with both physical and virtual elements embodied by a single space, like a room. This in my account would be like Jarvis getting overloaded into a non-dualist assistant computer who doesn't hide the digital world.

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    10. Venkatesh Rao (田 )‏ @vgr 25 Aug 2020

      Something about this direction feels a bit wrong to me though. The problem I describe would exist even if everything you did was information based, and you didn't need any physical stuff at all.

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       🤷🏻‍♀️‏ @DanielleFong 25 Aug 2020
      Replying to @vgr

      @stewartbrand had an amazing setup, a 40 foot long desk with a chair on a rail to scoot back and forth on, in a shipping container.

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        2.  🤷🏻‍♀️‏ @DanielleFong 25 Aug 2020
          Replying to @DanielleFong @vgr @stewartbrand

          ref: this book:https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/38310.How_Buildings_Learn …

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        3. Venkatesh Rao (田 )‏ @vgr 25 Aug 2020
          Replying to @DanielleFong @stewartbrand

          Yeah, familiar with it... haven't read the book, but watched a bunch of the video documentary based on it

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        2. Venkatesh Rao (田 )‏ @vgr 25 Aug 2020
          Replying to @DanielleFong @stewartbrand

          Heh, yeah that would be sweet. One of the options I'm considering is a 6.5' long narrow workbench that's 18" deep, instead of a more regular 2'x4' desk-type workbench.https://www.amazon.com/Goplus-Workbench-Heavy-Duty-Reinforcement-Workstation/dp/B07KBW4377 …

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        3.  🤷🏻‍♀️‏ @DanielleFong 25 Aug 2020
          Replying to @vgr @stewartbrand

          i always use so much horizontal space. for music i like an L, with multiple levels

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