Lack of PPE / ventilators kinda supports his general anti-globalism argument, though. Super embarrassing that we had to beg for masks and equipment from foreign countries, including China. I think everyone agrees about this now though.
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John Henry Retweeted Oliver Omicronwell
Yeah; polarization needs to die and we need to desperately stop partisanizing every fucking thing. I think every person agrees. Gonna say that Trump and anti-Trump are equally at blame for this, maybe Trump a little more.https://twitter.com/interpretantion/status/1293949013356683267 …
John Henry added,
Oliver Omicronwell @interpretantionReplying to @interpretantion @spiderfoodsall this being said, this is by no means *solely* his fault. what i'm mad about most of all is *both* camps at different points in time willing to pooh-pooh the pandemic to score cheap points. it started with liberals pooh-poohing it, but for the past few months it's the opposite1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes -
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John Henry Retweeted Oliver Omicronwell
Re: HCQ... This is the critical issue, IMO. If -- IF -- it is shown, beyond doubt, to be substantially effective (say 10% mortality reduction), then ENTIRE narrative of coronavirus changes. Anti-Trump crowd becomes directly responsible for 10k+ deathshttps://twitter.com/interpretantion/status/1293948680677056514 …
John Henry added,
Oliver Omicronwell @interpretantionReplying to @interpretantion @spiderfoodsas for HCQ, i agree that there's been a smear campaign not based in any quest for the truth, but whether or not it works, trump's promotion of it was itself motivated by an agenda of promoting an alleged deus ex machina. so it comes off to me as part of the apathy1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes -
Replying to @spiderfoods @interpretantion
Imparting intent that he only boosted it for his own ego or whatever seems super weird to me. Seems like he just looked at facts / data coming from other countries, said "hey, this might be good", and then the entire anti-Trump world shifted to "HCQ is dangerous and evil"
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i don't mean about his ego. i mean i think that HCQ was another narrative pushed to say "it won't be so bad, look, we already have a cure." the evidence for it is still really mucky both ways, so it seems to push too hard for *or* against it is irresponsible
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yeah it's... it's a heavily studied medicine at this point. the argument at present is, if it works, it works early, not late, and only in combination with zinc and a steriod and if you monitor the heart, which is a lot of conditions. and we haven't done a RCT on it...
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I think the effectiveness question is still on the table, good arguments for and against. The main irresponsibility from anti-Trump camp, IMO, is pushing how "dangerous" it is. It's not a dangerous medicine, lol. It causes some arrhythmia at stupidly high doses. That's it
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And if it has a *reasonable chance* of being effective, it should have been promoted and distributed everywhere. Ultimately this is up to doctors, though, I'm definitely no MD
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definitely don't think it meets this standard at this point, and only because of this as an extremely politicized issue, the state should run an RCT to settle the damn issue. if there weren't such pressure I'd say reallocate all of the resources to other therapeutics/vaccines
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none of the observational stuff is compelling to you? (Obviously, RCTs are the gold standard...) https://hcqtrial.com/
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No, this is not compelling to me by itself, waaaaay too many confounding factors.
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