Absolutely agree with all of this. Discovery before explanation. This is a key problem with our modern disavowal of exploration, experience, and art over science.
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Replying to @DanielleFong @learning20201
It relates to the cascading rate doublings leading up to chaotic regimes. Well not just that. Sufficient complexity in the behavior hits a different threshold of emergent information exchange (intelligence).
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Replying to @GatWhale @DanielleFong
hmm... but do we have any principle to tell what is "Sufficient" before-hand?
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Replying to @learning20201 @DanielleFong
Probably newer and better thinking now, but a book I read about "The Edge of Chaos" suggested that self-organizing systems seem to find a sweet spot that is just chaotic enough. I don't think it is a measure, but a qualitative mode that is between periodic modes and full chaos.
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still need to dig into Ilya Prigogine's work on dissipative structures: self-organization in systems in far-from-equilibrium conditions and irreversibility (finally time becomes important in physics again!) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilya_Prigogine#Research …pic.twitter.com/b32zM2v0LI
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Oh, that's an awesome reference! This is some of the sort of stuff I started working on in grad school until life took me elsewhere :D
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Replying to @DanielleFong @learning20201
I didn't start down this path until the NYT best seller, Chaos by Gleick and since have been on the lookout for these ideas where they appear. One inspiring direction was the book "Into the Cool" which was about living systems evolving to slow down the energy cascades with life.
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Replying to @learning20201 @DanielleFong
Mostly living chemical cycles, but this are physical too as in the water cycles. Compare sunlight directly on mineral rock/sand vs. a forest that holds moisture and chemical energy throughout a complex matrix. Instead of the raw 5000K radiation flux from Sol, energy steps down.
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Replying to @GatWhale @DanielleFong
fascinating! & Ilya Prigogine Nobel Prize lecture: pdf link on that page https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/chemistry/1977/prigogine/lecture/ …pic.twitter.com/UYgaW5bsD8
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Yeah I have been working on the *dynamics* of thermodynamics since starting LightSail and have been basically trading on these intuitions. Almost all of statistical mechanics takes on new character far from equilibrium, and life is that paradigmatic far from equilibrium system
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Replying to @DanielleFong @GatWhale
those are some of the key insights about our universe! yet to develop an intuition for them... working on it... hope
@stephen_wolfram and@wolframphysics Project keep those in mind as they are exploring what the Fundamental Theory of Physics might look like1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes -
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Exploring the super-important Second Law of Thermodynamics + Information Theory in the less explored non-linear space, like far-from-equilibrium states, spontaneous self-organization, HAS TO BE crucial for uncovering the roots of complexity, consciousness & life in our universe.pic.twitter.com/SxiK0wLexX
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