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    1. Oliver Omicronwell‏ @interpretantion 7 May 2020

      This "gain of function" research at the Wuhan lab closes the case on whether geoengineering is a good idea, if there was any real argument to begin with...

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    2. 𝚠𝚒𝚕𝚍𝚏𝚕𝚘𝚠𝚎𝚛  🌺‏ @wildflowerearth 7 May 2020
      Replying to @interpretantion

      But the very same argument applies to credit creation in the economy

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    3. 𝚠𝚒𝚕𝚍𝚏𝚕𝚘𝚠𝚎𝚛  🌺‏ @wildflowerearth 7 May 2020
      Replying to @wildflowerearth @interpretantion

      Credit creation and destruction.

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    4. Oliver Omicronwell‏ @interpretantion 7 May 2020
      Replying to @wildflowerearth

      What are you proposing? That usury should always be strictly forbidden?

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    5.  🤷🏻‍♀️‏ @DanielleFong 7 May 2020
      Replying to @interpretantion @wildflowerearth

      life itself is a gain function what i am saying is that in a time of chaos, control is a profoundly limiting strategy humans have been geoengineering for tens of thousands of years see Whole Earth Discipline: @stewartbrand we have become as gods and *must* get good at itpic.twitter.com/hZaL1Z85nS

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    6. Oliver Omicronwell‏ @interpretantion 7 May 2020
      Replying to @DanielleFong @wildflowerearth @stewartbrand

      Nothing personal, but this is an extreme generalization of the type that was used to justify tinkering with coronavirus strains. "Humans have been performing genetic engineering for thousands of years" doesn't make the pandemic go away.

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    7. Oliver Omicronwell‏ @interpretantion 7 May 2020
      Replying to @interpretantion @DanielleFong and

      Also I don't know what "life is a gain function" means. It doesn't seem to have anything to do with the specific hazards of tampering with pathogens to make them more contagious and deadly.

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    8.  🤷🏻‍♀️‏ @DanielleFong 7 May 2020
      Replying to @interpretantion @wildflowerearth @stewartbrand

      i definitely think we should *not* do that, but we should also no rule out geoengineering. actually an ice-age is quite nearly a possibility, and we should consider controlling it.

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    9. Oliver Omicronwell‏ @interpretantion 7 May 2020
      Replying to @DanielleFong @wildflowerearth @stewartbrand

      It has the same fundamental failing as what was done at the Wuhan lab: there's no limit to how much of the world it affects and it's not reversible. This is the equivalent of betting *all* of one's money in a single bet

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       🤷🏻‍♀️‏ @DanielleFong 7 May 2020
      Replying to @interpretantion @wildflowerearth @stewartbrand

      not actually. you can use the kelly criterion here as elsewhere. in a time of great change, the only wrong move is to take no risk. a static strategy will surely perish.

      7:14 AM - 7 May 2020
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        2.  🤷🏻‍♀️‏ @DanielleFong 7 May 2020
          Replying to @DanielleFong @interpretantion and

          you live only once. yet your actions ripple in eternity. with respect to "life is a gain function" here are three excellent references. https://www.amazon.com/What-Life-Lynn-Margulis/dp/0520220218 … https://www.amazon.com/What-Life-Matter-Autobiographical-Sketches/dp/B07M6ZSYS2/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=what+is+life&qid=1588860956&s=books&sr=1-1 … https://www.amazon.com/Sociobiology-New-Synthesis-Twenty-Fifth-Anniversary/dp/0674002350/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=eo+wilson+sociobiology&qid=1588861000&s=audible&sr=1-1-catcorr …

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        3. Oliver Omicronwell‏ @interpretantion 7 May 2020
          Replying to @DanielleFong @wildflowerearth @stewartbrand

          Okay, when I say geoengineering I mean giant projects like solar shades. Those are not kelly bets, because it's not like you can leave some part of the system untouched

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