what? the distinction is unimportant. this is but one such facility of many. if you do not have the hospital beds you do what you can. this is the clue to you that Wuhan is much further along than other Chinese cities and this isnt some “hiding in the flu” BS
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Replying to @Trumpery45 @DanielleFong
Photos of unclear sourcing are weak clues during a freak-out; I trust numbers (& have higher trust for non-China numbers). The distinctions between severity, & actual diseases present, are all-important in sussing out what's actually happening.pic.twitter.com/4vt1sd6o4H
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Replying to @gojomo @DanielleFong
there are 9000+ confirmed cases *in serious or critical condition* in one city and well over 2000 deaths so far. These are/were novel corona virus patients with pneumonia. You are seriousiy out of touch if you think this is either the same in many cities, or untrue.
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Replying to @Trumpery45 @DanielleFong
China's last reported death count, as of a couple hours ago, was 2004, which isn't "well over 2000". You seem prone to embellishment in your current panic/fugue. Let's check back in in 2021 when more reliable stats about the outbreak, & the CPC's response, are available.
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Replying to @gojomo @DanielleFong
The death toll is absolutely understated. The infectious count, by the same conservative skepticsm, is under counting. Your unbearable credulity is off the charts. You cherry pick one china number as exact but then pretend they are lying about few cases in Beijing or Shanghai.
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Replying to @Trumpery45 @DanielleFong
Deaths might be underreported! But other factors, like covering up collateral damage from overreaction, or justifying oppressive response, or confusion about deaths in an overworked system, could also cause overreporting. Let's check back, in 2021 & see who was credulous.
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Replying to @gojomo @DanielleFong
you wont have to wait that long before discovering your peculiar theories arent standing up.
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OK mr-kinda-believes-china's-health-oppression-is-competent-but-also-china's-actually-lying-and-my-specific-assertions-about-filled-sports-stadiums-and-"well-over"-death-counts-are-just-made-up-hand-waving. Contact me January 1, 2021 with all the links proving you were right.
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Replying to @Trumpery45 @gojomo
Hey guys sorry to have been away from modding duties. FWIW Gordon I think that you are underestimating the disease. Before we talk about costs I just want to make clear that if
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I think the big problem is the subsymptomatic spread. It means that the virus is way harder to contain or defend against,
*and* it reduces the evolutionary pressure that normally makes more contagiousness trade off vs lethality
The #covid family of diseases is elusive, lethal
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Replying to @DanielleFong @Trumpery45
Maybe! But ‘subsymptomatic spread’ that also never inconveniences (much less kills!) hosts is fitness ideal for viruses. Not yet firm evidence subsymptomic spreaders have given fatal cases to others: so maybe already some strains both very mild & very widespread. …
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In that case, containment already impossible (& draconian measures that will fail anyway then awful on net costs/benefits) - but also subsequent impact much less fearsome - on scale of ‘bad flu season’ or even ‘worst flu season ever’ - but still not society-reordering.
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